On December 01 2010 13:34 PUre.nINE wrote:
TLAF-Liquid`Jinro < Scrap Station > FOXMoon
Jinro goes for marine and tanks attack midgame through the middle, Moon doesn't get mutas out fast enough, gg's after losing nat.
TLAF-Liquid`Jinro < Xel'Naga Caverns > FOXMoon
Jinro goes for same thing, Moon does the same, tries a sneak nydus that doesn't do enough damage, can't get mutas in time, gg's after losing army.
~~TLAF-Liquid`Jinro< Blistering Sands > FOXMoon~~

EGIdra < Blistering Sands > IMmvp
MVP goes for some early aggression that is repelled by IdrA, goes marines and tanks off two bases. Pushes towards IdrA's back rocks around 90 food. IdrA surrounds from both sides with mass roaches.
EGIdra < Steppes of War > IMmvp
MVP goes for fast marines and scv push. IdrA doesn't scout in time, can't defend the push, then gg's.
EGIdra < Metalopolis > IMmvp
MVP has some early aggression that doesn't do much. Goes into long game that eventually IdrA wins.

choyafOu < Steppes of War > CheckPrime.WE
Some rush.
choyafOu < Delta Quadrant > CheckPrime.WE
choyafOu < Xel'Naga Caverns > CheckPrime.WE

SlayerS_`BoxeR` < Delta Quadrant > PoltPrime.WE
BoxeR attacks early with marines and hellions, Polt is taken by surprise and gets behind. Polt tries to fight back with an attack of his own. BoxeR miraculously defends, Polt gg's.
SlayerS_`BoxeR` < Blistering Sands > PoltPrime.WE
Polt gets outplayed.
~~SlayerS_`BoxeR` < Jungle Basin > PoltPrime.WE~~

Rofl, I've never seen such a detailed prediction before. XD

Irave

United States9965 Posts

December 01 2010 04:49 GMT

#42

Its hard to branch away from my Wc3 favoritism. However I think Jinro has a great shot at winning this series. I'm more nervous for Idra.

SoMuchBetter

Australia10606 Posts

December 01 2010 04:52 GMT

#43

On December 01 2010 13:31 On_Slaught wrote:
The oddsmakers have Idra/Jinro doing worse than I thought.

Idra got a decent break with his map pool so I think he has a legitimate shot though it will be extremely difficult.

I have no idea why Moon is the fav over Jinro that much.

moon is a grizzled veteran. jinro is a relative newcomer and is susceptible to nerves.
the odds could also be a result of betting trends

Respectfulwon

48 Posts

December 01 2010 04:53 GMT

#44

I don't see idra winning any of the sets. Don't forget that IMMVP has Nestea as his training partner and Nestea went undefeated until facing Foxer in the finals. Also, do keep in mind that IMMVP didn't train with Nestea before the matches with oGs.Zenio and that MVP has sure learned his mistakes from that game and surely he's corrected them. Terrans now have a more options as Polt reintroduced the early reaper harrass and Foxers innovative Marine strategies. Idra was always considered to be a "Macro Player" but even on SC1 he had trouble keeping his minerals under 1000 on two bases. IMMVP has superior macro/micro to idra and actually played in a vast amount of Pro Televised matches. Whereas Idra didn't (Excluding the games with Stork, July) which he lost btw. I really would love to see a foreigner move on but statistically idra doesn't stand much of a chance. He's also had a weak bracket and that protoss who could have easily wraped up the game but chose to be greedy was rather painful to watch. Even Artosis mentioned "He has no brain" lol I hope the best for Idra but don't see him advancing.

Raine

Canada210 Posts

December 01 2010 04:54 GMT

#45

3/4 people I'm cheering for got shitty ods.
Underdog going to win today.
Jinro
Idra
Choya

apathetic21

United States38 Posts

December 01 2010 04:59 GMT

#46

Liquibet shows odds in huge favor of the koreans over the top foreigners...guess it comes to show the skill difference across realms.

PartyBiscuit

Canada4525 Posts

December 01 2010 05:00 GMT

#47

Jinro seems more even on skill level for Moon (just because I don't think Moon is still banking in the time yet for SC2), but IdrA's maps are more doable.

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

December 01 2010 05:00 GMT

#48

Two foreigners, a P, and Boxer. Today should be good.

JoeSchmoe

Canada2058 Posts

December 01 2010 05:01 GMT

#49

honestly I don't think moon has a chance against jinro considering how poorly he played in ro64

FuRong

New Zealand3089 Posts

December 01 2010 05:01 GMT

#50

I wonder why Check is so favoured over choya. Sure, Check is good, but he's not on the same level as Nestea or Fruit, and the first two maps are Steppes and DQ...I think choya is good enough to put him away 2-0 on those maps, but apparently the Korean community doesn't agree.

ReachTheSky

United States3294 Posts

December 01 2010 05:04 GMT

#51

Jinro 2-0 Moon
MvP 2-1 Idra
Check 2-0 Choya
Boxer 2-1 Polt

Subversion

South Africa3627 Posts

December 01 2010 05:05 GMT

#52

I'm really shocked by the betting odds against our foreigners.

I really don't think Moon is that good, and I don't think mvp is such a firm favourite over IdrA, ZvT is his best MU after all.

Pervect

1280 Posts

December 01 2010 05:06 GMT

#53

Come one Jinro and Idra!! Need some foreigners..

DeltruS

Canada2214 Posts

December 01 2010 05:06 GMT

#54

I voted for IdrA but MVP has a 300 point lead over everyone on the ladder. If IdrA wins these, the games will have to be epic beyond anyting so far.

Lobotomist

United States1541 Posts

December 01 2010 05:09 GMT

#55

gogogogo Idra and Check!

Though I wouldn't be toooooo mad if Check loses, it'd be awesome to see some Toss advancement

Biggo

Australia185 Posts

December 01 2010 05:12 GMT

#56

I haven't been all that blown away by Moon's play so far

Am I missing something, or is it more that Jinro is still largerly an unknown quantity in GSL?

Irave

United States9965 Posts

December 01 2010 05:12 GMT

#57

Speaking of our favorite Liquid players, HuK is currently streaming, this helps with the wait until the games start! Such a treat!

kvn4444

1510 Posts

December 01 2010 05:13 GMT

#58

sick lineup of games. the idra/mvp match has the makings to be a great tvz, on level with clide/leenock game.

LlamaNamedOsama

United States1900 Posts

December 01 2010 05:14 GMT

#59

Jinro and Idra got this.

MichaelJLowell

United States610 Posts

December 01 2010 05:17 GMT

#60

On December 01 2010 13:36 iNoobSoWhat wrote:
Go-go-go Jinro! PWN some wc3 n00by!

Watching Moon advance and defeat the Brood War figurehead would be an early Christmas gift, if only because it would result in the Twelve Days of Mourning on TeamLiquid. (Yes, I feast on the lulz.)