i don't get why people complain. It is up to the organizers to make their own rule. And arguably, female gamers are different from male gamers just as female chess is separate. Female gamers are also at a disadvantage socially because of all the stereotypes so they deserve their own league.
Anyway as pointed out earlier, if you complain about this, why don't u complain about Viking Cup because it discriminates against people out of the Nordic Area. Same as TSL because they did not allow Korean progamers?
On October 30 2010 01:56 LolnoobInsanity wrote: The importance of female tournaments is simply so that the winner can say "I'm the best female sc2 player right now." The same reason there are any sort of tournaments with some restrictions.
but is there any sort of in-built genetic thing that means that women simply can't compete at the highest level in sc2? or do we just have anecdotal evidence from other games (i.e. tossgirl's pro record)? if there is, as there is in something like basketball etc, that's cool. if there isn't, like in, say, poker, then it isn't.
although this sort of debate could potentially be interesting, i don't want to hijack the thread any further, gl hf to those who are playing
While I'm happy yall are doing this, I'm kinda sad the competitive gaming scene is such that you HAVE to make these female only tourneys in order to get a decent number of female participates. Gaming isn't a sport where body strength is tested, and that's the barrier that a lot of physical sports have which make it necessary to separate the sexes into different leagues. Since this barrier doesn't exist it would be nice to see more female entries into the big name tournaments, as well as more big name female players.
Either way, GL HF, like the guy above me I don't wish to hijack this topic.
On October 30 2010 01:56 LolnoobInsanity wrote: The importance of female tournaments is simply so that the winner can say "I'm the best female sc2 player right now." The same reason there are any sort of tournaments with some restrictions.
but is there any sort of in-built genetic thing that means that women simply can't compete at the highest level in sc2? or do we just have anecdotal evidence from other games (i.e. tossgirl's pro record)? if there is, as there is in something like basketball etc, that's cool. if there isn't, like in, say, poker, then it isn't.
although this sort of debate could potentially be interesting, i don't want to hijack the thread any further, gl hf to those who are playing
Maybe they don't want to put 10 hours a day in, but still want to have a tourney for fun with still having a chance to win?
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
ontopic: I know two girls who might be interested and they're luckily both on EU :D should be a fun tourney.
females havent been exposed to the genre for as long as males have. Whens the last time you bought red alert for your daughter?
It would be like someone teaching you how to knit in one sitting and then tossing you in a knitting competition with a bunch of grandmas. You would not be able to compete.
They want to play competitively with peers on a equal playing field, is that so hard to understand? Give them a few years at playing and when they beat your ass dont be suprised.
I want replays though, something tells me these gals will have some pretty awesome sneak attacks :D
GOD people just make me sick complaining about things that dont affect them at all. Should I come to your house and say that you should have something else for dinner? Or that you should have gotten the red car instead of the blue one?
On October 30 2010 01:03 parkin wrote: Isnt this a bit discriminating? What if I made a tournament where only individuals with black skin color are allowed to sign up? Whats the purpose of a tournament where you exclude certain individuals just because they have a penis between their legs?
Are transvestites or hermaphrodites allowed to sign up?
You guys will bitch about anything I swear, they could make a open tournament where everyone instantly wins $1,000,000 and I guarantee people will still complain about it.
This is a good thing for e-sports in the long run imo, there's only a few select (actually just 1 i can think of) females that can roll with most high level male players.
i would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
She beat LuckyFool at a DC LAN in BroodWar.
she is confirmed to be a girl. trust me, i'm good at knowing if someone is a girl or not in real life.
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
She's defiantly a girl. She stopped playing competitively after beta phase 1 or so (don't remember exactly when). But when she did play she was very high ranked (I think she peaked at 2100). When she was active she was one of the better players in the NA server and I'm pretty sure top 200 easy at the time (no official lists back then). Even Day9 knows who she is and commented about her skill on the MLG DC stream when they showed her warming up.
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
Have you met her?
no
Have 200 other people from TL met her? yes
she's a chick, nice troll attempt.
wasnt trying to troll, really hadnt heard of shiver and wanted to know if people had seen her irl.
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote: OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?
I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote: I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
She's defiantly a girl. She stopped playing competitively after beta phase 1 or so (don't remember exactly when). But when she did play she was very high ranked (I think she peaked at 2100). When she was active she was one of the better players in the NA server and I'm pretty sure top 200 easy at the time (no official lists back then). Even Day9 knows who she is and commented about her skill on the MLG DC stream when they showed her warming up.
Thanks :D I didnt mean to come off saying "pfffff girls sux", was simply curious.
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