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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 29 2010 17:52 GMT
#61
why not!

good luck with this project.

i don't get why people complain. It is up to the organizers to make their own rule. And arguably, female gamers are different from male gamers just as female chess is separate. Female gamers are also at a disadvantage socially because of all the stereotypes so they deserve their own league.

Anyway as pointed out earlier, if you complain about this, why don't u complain about Viking Cup because it discriminates against people out of the Nordic Area. Same as TSL because they did not allow Korean progamers?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
October 29 2010 17:54 GMT
#62
On October 30 2010 01:56 LolnoobInsanity wrote:
The importance of female tournaments is simply so that the winner can say "I'm the best female sc2 player right now." The same reason there are any sort of tournaments with some restrictions.


but is there any sort of in-built genetic thing that means that women simply can't compete at the highest level in sc2? or do we just have anecdotal evidence from other games (i.e. tossgirl's pro record)? if there is, as there is in something like basketball etc, that's cool. if there isn't, like in, say, poker, then it isn't.

although this sort of debate could potentially be interesting, i don't want to hijack the thread any further, gl hf to those who are playing
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Pfhor
Profile Joined September 2010
123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 17:59:40
October 29 2010 17:58 GMT
#63
While I'm happy yall are doing this, I'm kinda sad the competitive gaming scene is such that you HAVE to make these female only tourneys in order to get a decent number of female participates. Gaming isn't a sport where body strength is tested, and that's the barrier that a lot of physical sports have which make it necessary to separate the sexes into different leagues. Since this barrier doesn't exist it would be nice to see more female entries into the big name tournaments, as well as more big name female players.

Either way, GL HF, like the guy above me I don't wish to hijack this topic.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 29 2010 18:02 GMT
#64
On October 30 2010 02:54 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 01:56 LolnoobInsanity wrote:
The importance of female tournaments is simply so that the winner can say "I'm the best female sc2 player right now." The same reason there are any sort of tournaments with some restrictions.


but is there any sort of in-built genetic thing that means that women simply can't compete at the highest level in sc2? or do we just have anecdotal evidence from other games (i.e. tossgirl's pro record)? if there is, as there is in something like basketball etc, that's cool. if there isn't, like in, say, poker, then it isn't.

although this sort of debate could potentially be interesting, i don't want to hijack the thread any further, gl hf to those who are playing


Maybe they don't want to put 10 hours a day in, but still want to have a tourney for fun with still having a chance to win?

OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 29 2010 18:12 GMT
#65
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?

ontopic: I know two girls who might be interested and they're luckily both on EU :D should be a fun tourney.
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Neeka
Profile Joined October 2010
United States49 Posts
October 29 2010 18:20 GMT
#66
Farmville needs to slowly turn into an RTS so a broader audience can understand it better. Kind of like a gateway drug into Starcraft
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Zyban
Profile Joined October 2010
United States54 Posts
October 29 2010 18:24 GMT
#67
females havent been exposed to the genre for as long as males have. Whens the last time you bought red alert for your daughter?

It would be like someone teaching you how to knit in one sitting and then tossing you in a knitting competition with a bunch of grandmas. You would not be able to compete.

They want to play competitively with peers on a equal playing field, is that so hard to understand? Give them a few years at playing and when they beat your ass dont be suprised.

I want replays though, something tells me these gals will have some pretty awesome sneak attacks :D
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leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 29 2010 18:39 GMT
#68
GOD people just make me sick complaining about things that dont affect them at all. Should I come to your house and say that you should have something else for dinner? Or that you should have gotten the red car instead of the blue one?
Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
October 29 2010 18:40 GMT
#69
On October 30 2010 01:06 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 01:03 parkin wrote:
Isnt this a bit discriminating? What if I made a tournament where only individuals with black skin color are allowed to sign up? Whats the purpose of a tournament where you exclude certain individuals just because they have a penis between their legs?

Are transvestites or hermaphrodites allowed to sign up?



You guys will bitch about anything I swear, they could make a open tournament where everyone instantly wins $1,000,000 and I guarantee people will still complain about it.

This is a good thing for e-sports in the long run imo, there's only a few select (actually just 1 i can think of) females that can roll with most high level male players.



i would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 29 2010 18:46 GMT
#70
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
October 29 2010 18:54 GMT
#71
Who can complain about another sc2 tourney? It is not like the probes and marines will be wearing anything different. The carnage will be there!

Looking forward to this!
Brood War forever!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 29 2010 18:59 GMT
#72
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11603 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 19:07:32
October 29 2010 19:05 GMT
#73
On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?


She beat LuckyFool at a DC LAN in BroodWar.

she is confirmed to be a girl. trust me, i'm good at knowing if someone is a girl or not in real life.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 29 2010 19:09 GMT
#74
i can tell if someone is alive or dead
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
October 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#75
On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?


Have you met her?

no

Have 200 other people from TL met her? yes

she's a chick, nice troll attempt.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 29 2010 19:10 GMT
#76
On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?


She's defiantly a girl. She stopped playing competitively after beta phase 1 or so (don't remember exactly when). But when she did play she was very high ranked (I think she peaked at 2100). When she was active she was one of the better players in the NA server and I'm pretty sure top 200 easy at the time (no official lists back then). Even Day9 knows who she is and commented about her skill on the MLG DC stream when they showed her warming up.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
October 29 2010 19:14 GMT
#77
This is a cool and neat idea. Good work!
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 19:24:11
October 29 2010 19:22 GMT
#78
On October 30 2010 04:10 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?


Have you met her?

no

Have 200 other people from TL met her? yes

she's a chick, nice troll attempt.


wasnt trying to troll, really hadnt heard of shiver and wanted to know if people had seen her irl.


On October 30 2010 04:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet.


How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence?


I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver

On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt


Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo.


havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male?


She's defiantly a girl. She stopped playing competitively after beta phase 1 or so (don't remember exactly when). But when she did play she was very high ranked (I think she peaked at 2100). When she was active she was one of the better players in the NA server and I'm pretty sure top 200 easy at the time (no official lists back then). Even Day9 knows who she is and commented about her skill on the MLG DC stream when they showed her warming up.


Thanks :D I didnt mean to come off saying "pfffff girls sux", was simply curious.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 19:59:26
October 29 2010 19:56 GMT
#79
On October 30 2010 00:41 Dagon wrote:
I want to see missWHEAT vs day9' girlfriend in the finals!!


Pretty sure they both don't have EU accounts

On October 30 2010 01:00 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Man I wish Shiver was still playing, she'd own this league !


yep

On October 30 2010 00:41 Vandro wrote:
I don't understand why there needs to be female tournaments?


same reason there are gold and under tournaments?
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 29 2010 20:09 GMT
#80
On October 30 2010 01:28 TLOBrian wrote:
No need to have ONLY females or ONLY male tournies, as both are included in regular tournaments.

No need to have any tournament other than the GSL, in fact, because everyone can just participate there.
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