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On October 30 2010 04:10 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 03:59 TheAntZ wrote:On October 30 2010 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On October 30 2010 03:12 TheAntZ wrote:On October 30 2010 03:02 Fa1nT wrote:
OFC with the desire and time, any female could beat any male, they simply just don't have anyone willing to make that commitment yet. How do you know this? How can you state it as a fact without having any proof or evidence? I present Evidence Exhibit #1 to the court's attention: Shiver On October 30 2010 03:40 Zeroes wrote:
I would complain that iccup would be losing money and i would hate to see iccup go bankrupt Nah we got mad $, just ask Baller about our iCCup Limo. havent heard of shiver, can you give me some background? Was she 100% confirmed beyond doubt female, (and not just a dude with a girly voice and several pics of some other girl) and was she able to beat any male? She's defiantly a girl. She stopped playing competitively after beta phase 1 or so (don't remember exactly when). But when she did play she was very high ranked (I think she peaked at 2100). When she was active she was one of the better players in the NA server and I'm pretty sure top 200 easy at the time (no official lists back then). Even Day9 knows who she is and commented about her skill on the MLG DC stream when they showed her warming up.
Yeah true, plus, she was very often seen on orb's stream as they were high school mates.
She used to stream a lot also... Sad we don't see her play anymore.
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awww its on EU
i was going to try and con a sister or two into joining
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On October 30 2010 01:28 TLOBrian wrote:
I dislike female only gaming. Get over it and join tournaments that are open to all competitors : P No need to have ONLY females or ONLY male tournies, as both are included in regular tournaments. I have no idea why people still insist on creating these types of competitions.
It's like the Frag dolls, they're not good, but the fact that they play Halo and can woop .5 KDR noobs makes them goddesses. It's just dumb.
Plus, an all girls tournament is just giving off the perception that men are better at everything. It's like making a "Special Olympics" Tournament. It's just downright degrading.
I agree with this.
Is SC2 some physically demanding game that men has an advantage? Are ladies incapable of playing RTS games of the same level?
People should be patient, if SC2 becomes big enough, has bigger exposure, outstanding female players will eventually appear. Now we have a small tournament, filled with stereotype symbolism.
What a joke.
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God almighty, the moaning here is pathetic. Why should this tournament exist? Because someone is prepared to organise it, and other people are prepared to play in it. You don't like that? Tough shit, rightly no-one bothered to ask you. If a clan of low ranked friends has a clan tournament why does it matter that the winner probably isn't even the best player in his zip code. If someone wants to organise a tournament where only people whoes id's start ZpQn******** can play they can do that, its fine.
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Gl hf girls, hopefully the scene can grow with stuff like this. But i don't support the idea of girl only gaming tournaments either. They don't have any disadvantages and can fully take part in the usual tournaments.
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On October 30 2010 00:58 YourMom wrote:Ladies, I am 1800+ Diamond and I offer private coaching. 
what in the hell...
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I'm assuming it is posted somewhere or someone has asked, but if no one is casting, would you mind if I did?
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The idea behind female only tournament isn't that females can't compete with men (which is not true) or that females need special treatment (they don't). It's just a product of the fact that the community is 90% or whatever male and someone wants to fix that. People follow money. Much like we want big $ tournaments to spur higher level play, having female only tournaments will ideally pull females into Starcraft to help get that 90% to something closer to 50%. As other people mentioned it's like having a regional tournament or 'gold league' tournament. You do these things to draw more people into the scene, not specifically to account for inequalities (which only exist due to dedication/practice more so than physical inequalities).
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I'm not going to read the negative comments here about female leagues being bad etc. but you're definitely doing a GREAT JOB for us guys and girls
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for all of you whining about it being a girls only tournament... just freaking let it be... its not cause girls cant play against males... its not cause they suck or something , its just that normally girls do not like to be playing whit males on videogames (even more if your gonna use voice) cause of how horribly bad mannered some are (by some i mean 70% of the people... they have good manners most of the time but they hear a girl and oh god....) so please... just drop it this is a really good thing for sc2 since this will bring more females to it knowing that they can have fun whitouth 25 guys just triying to get them to watch their "junk" over msn.
Best of lucks whit the tournament and hope we can see more and more girls actually starting to play sc2 .
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On October 30 2010 01:28 TLOBrian wrote:
I dislike female only gaming. Get over it and join tournaments that are open to all competitors : P No need to have ONLY females or ONLY male tournies, as both are included in regular tournaments. I have no idea why people still insist on creating these types of competitions.
It's like the Frag dolls, they're not good, but the fact that they play Halo and can woop .5 KDR noobs makes them goddesses. It's just dumb.
Plus, an all girls tournament is just giving off the perception that men are better at everything. It's like making a "Special Olympics" Tournament. It's just downright degrading.
This might be the only chance for a female gamer to enter competitive gaming. You might be too intimidated to enter any other tournament (Cuz, well, obviously only male gamers sign up, so if I were female that'd be a bit non-atractive/scary/intimidating as well).
So actually this is a very good thing. More female gamers is exactly what E-sport needs. A sport dedicated exclusively for one gender is doomed to fail in the long run.
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I looked at the website. Notice no North American leagues 
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On October 30 2010 05:50 LittleeD wrote:
A sport dedicated exclusively for one gender is doomed to fail in the long run.
That's the point, it isn't dedicated to one gender until you start segregating people like this tournament. There is nothing stopping female gamers competiting in tournaments today, it's not even like you have to reveal anything to sign up for craft cup or whatever.
Theres nothing wrong with this relatively casual event (no prize money) but if it leads to real tournaments it's detrimental to the scene having tournaments not everyone can compete in and devaules competition.
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On October 30 2010 06:01 f0rk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:50 LittleeD wrote:
A sport dedicated exclusively for one gender is doomed to fail in the long run. That's the point, it isn't dedicated to one gender until you start segregating people like this tournament. There is nothing stopping female gamers competiting in tournaments today, it's not even like you have to reveal anything to sign up for craft cup or whatever. Theres nothing wrong with this relatively casual event (no prize money) but if it leads to real tournaments it's detrimental to the scene having tournaments not everyone can compete in and devaules competition.
Yes, I see your point. But you have to agree that the scene as it is now, its very hard for a female gamer to find motivation for competitive gaming given that there're so few female gamers to begin with. You always need a stating igniter to make things find its right balance, which could by example be a tournament like this one.
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On October 30 2010 06:01 f0rk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 05:50 LittleeD wrote:
A sport dedicated exclusively for one gender is doomed to fail in the long run. That's the point, it isn't dedicated to one gender until you start segregating people like this tournament. There is nothing stopping female gamers competiting in tournaments today, it's not even like you have to reveal anything to sign up for craft cup or whatever. Theres nothing wrong with this relatively casual event (no prize money) but if it leads to real tournaments it's detrimental to the scene having tournaments not everyone can compete in and devaules competition.
Even the Olympics have sports that men and women could compete against each other in and yet they don't (shooting sports and such). Should we have tournaments open to all genders? Yeah most likely it's the best choice. Is it the only way of doing it successfully? No.
Also these kind of tournaments give people the chance to get in contact with similar minded people, people they can identify with and perhaps get better with. I don't see how that can be a bad thing.
(All this isn't directly directed at you btw)
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On October 30 2010 01:28 TLOBrian wrote:
I dislike female only gaming. Get over it and join tournaments that are open to all competitors : P No need to have ONLY females or ONLY male tournies, as both are included in regular tournaments. I have no idea why people still insist on creating these types of competitions.
It's like the Frag dolls, they're not good, but the fact that they play Halo and can woop .5 KDR noobs makes them goddesses. It's just dumb.
Plus, an all girls tournament is just giving off the perception that men are better at everything. It's like making a "Special Olympics" Tournament. It's just downright degrading.
this.
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I got my gf signed up. but we don't know how this voice thing works?
what do we have to do for voice obligation?
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If you don't like the tournament idea, close your browser and stop posting in this thread. If you wonder why there should be a "girls only" tournament, the answer is the same as why there are TL in-house tournaments: for the hell of it. If it's organized, it's legit. Stop being retarded. I sense a lot of males being threatened by girl gamers, because anyone who is isn't attention starved wouldn't give a shit, and would actually let themselves enjoy the spectator aspect of it.
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I hope every lady has a great time in this tournament and becomes better through experience and fun.
Alas, I cannot help but give my opinion on this. Would it not be better for a female to enter gaming as a gamer and not a female? It doesn't matter what nationality, sex, sexual preference, or religion you are, if you're a gamer, you're a gamer. Play with gamers, learn with gamers, have fun with gamers. But if you're going to limit yourself to only a certain "clique" so to speak of gamers, how can you ever expect to become better? But for those who just want to have fun, I see not a single issue with this. But if any of these ladies ever want to become professional, I suggest you hop in with the males and prove to us that it doesn't fucking matter what sex you are, you can still game and kick some ass!
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Finally :D I am so excited~~!!
But im afraid people will cheatr.. will there be voice obligation throughout the whole game or what? why not  cam ? .. XD
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