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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#2001
People need to learn how double elimination tournaments work

Going to be epic finals!
Life is Good.
undeinpirat
Profile Joined February 2010
United States17 Posts
August 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#2002
On August 29 2010 05:29 soki wrote:
ITT: People who don't understand "double elimination"...

This.
xnub
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada610 Posts
August 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#2003
Go go OOOO Canada !!! lol : P
Loving the beta !! Weeeeeeee
temps
Profile Joined April 2005
Canada62 Posts
August 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#2004
Are finals on now or they going to wait till 5:30?
Tigersmith
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
August 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#2005
this is gonna be epic
guluru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2006
On August 29 2010 05:28 Gaius Baltar wrote:
I think a handicapped final is not the ideal competition to end a tournament. Surely somebody who made it through the loser bracket already had to win more games than the winner bracket finalist, why not put the players on even footing in the grand final?

But I am curious, had Kiwi been knocked into the loser bracket by someone other than HuK, then made it to the finals against HuK, would he still have to win 4 games?


No it would've been 0-0. This is called extended series, meaning there had to be a history in the tourney already
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2007
On August 29 2010 05:27 Carl_Sagan wrote:
That's not a brutal ahndicap. It makes complete sense. Huk has NEVER lost a match, whereas Kiwikaki has already gotten his "single elimination" to the loser's bracket. How unfair would it be that Huk only gets one elimination, but Kiwikaki gets two?

Each player gets to lose one match(i.e. 2 games in a single match). Huk has never lost one yet, Kiwi already has. Thus, Kiwi is already one "elimination" behind Huk in this "double elimination" tournament.

Use your brain, it would be totally unfair any other way.


But... that makes too much sense!!!
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
tsutter
Profile Joined March 2009
United States52 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2008
On August 29 2010 05:30 ekaj wrote:
are tournaments this new to the sc community

yeah seriously wtf

this is the most standard thing next to playing bo3 2 sets in grand finals lmao
whatup
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:33:13
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2009
On August 29 2010 05:28 Gaius Baltar wrote:
I think a handicapped final is not the ideal competition to end a tournament. Surely somebody who made it through the loser bracket already had to win more games than the winner bracket finalist, why not put the players on even footing in the grand final?

But I am curious, had Kiwi been knocked into the loser bracket by someone other than HuK, then made it to the finals against HuK, would he still have to win 4 games?


This is a DOUBLE elimination tournament. A player has to be eliminated TWICE to lose. It's actually more safe for pro players to play double elimination because in it at least they have a second chance. Regularly, HuK would have Bo5'd Kiwi and that would have been the end of it, and with a 2-1 advantage in a Bo5, he's in a stronger position than a 2-1 in a Bo7.

Therefore, if Socke (for example), had made it to HuK, they'd play a Bo3. If HuK lost, Socke would play HuK in a second Bo3 (because he's only been eliminated once).

I can't believe people are QQing about double elimination. Have you guys seen tournaments before?
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2010
Basically by winning in the loser's bracket, Kiwi has earned an opportunity to finish his series against HuK.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2011
This old spice commercial is like the most genius thing ever
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2012
Cheeseburger doritos? Sounds disgusting
Life is Good.
soki
Profile Joined March 2010
United States40 Posts
August 28 2010 20:32 GMT
#2013
On August 29 2010 05:29 Carl_Sagan wrote:
Show nested quote +
why can't they just run it like every other tournament ever and make kiwikaki have to win two series and huk only need to win one?



Dude, think about what you're saying. That would mean Kiwi would need to win four games, and Huk only two.


THAT'S EXACTLY THE CURRENT SITUATION.

People, brains, please.

In the 2 BO3 scenario, Huk could win 1 game in each BO3 each but lose the series (2 wins total), but if he wins 2 games in the BO7 he wins. Not the same.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/270391/1/Soki/
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:33:37
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2014
ummm MLG stream frozen for any1 else on this commercial?

nvm
just here
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2015
Old Spice was too awesome for the stream to contain.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:33:42
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2016
yeah i think mlg broke
oh there it goes
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2017
On August 29 2010 05:32 tsutter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:30 ekaj wrote:
are tournaments this new to the sc community

yeah seriously wtf

this is the most standard thing next to playing bo3 2 sets in grand finals lmao

Yeah this is the tournament that has been used in most of the fighting game tournaments that are Double Elimination. I guess SC players are too used to the single elim format.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2018
On August 29 2010 05:33 tbrown47 wrote:
ummm MLG stream frozen for any1 else on this commercial?

y same here, was about to ask the same question. but its back up now.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2019
This format just doesn't work for 1v1 RTS.

You lose, you should be out. Bo3 single elimination is the best, finals you can do Bo5. Gom's Intel Classic format if you need an example. Worked really well and each final the best player won so the best should still be at the end giving you the best possible final.

Already being handicapped in the final game is a huge mental block and definitely not good.

Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
August 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#2020
return at 5pm EST!
aka Sowelulol
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