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Postaldude
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden180 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2041
MLG|Shrew:
Pre-Game show for the finals goes LIVE @ 17:00 ET = 23:00 CET


MLG|Shrew:
Finals go live 30 minutes later
You must construct additional pylons
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2042
On August 29 2010 05:33 Noxide wrote:
This format just doesn't work for 1v1 RTS.

You lose, you should be out. Bo3 single elimination is the best, finals you can do Bo5. Gom's Intel Classic format if you need an example. Worked really well and each final the best player won so the best should still be at the end giving you the best possible final.

Already being handicapped in the final game is a huge mental block and definitely not good.



While your first point is valid, the second point isn't. How is he handicapped? Going by single elimination, he shouldn't even be here. He lost already to HuK.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Thadorus
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada136 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2043
how much $ did socke win?
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2044
Pretty good job from the only two Europeans placing #3 and #5.
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2045
I was hoping to see some more terrans in the finals... P > T !!
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Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2046
On August 29 2010 05:36 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I'm pretty sure it will be Best of 7, starting at 2-0, regardless of the fact that the first series was 2-1.

this makes sense because it would be how they structure it if it were Socke v Huk? right?
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2047
On August 29 2010 05:33 Noxide wrote:
This format just doesn't work for 1v1 RTS.

You lose, you should be out. Bo3 single elimination is the best, finals you can do Bo5. Gom's Intel Classic format if you need an example. Worked really well and each final the best player won so the best should still be at the end giving you the best possible final.

Already being handicapped in the final game is a huge mental block and definitely not good.



I'm no stranger to competing at various gaming events and double elimination was always the best way. It's 2 fold: 1, in an open tournament w/o round robin prior the the seeding it allows players who showed up to actually get in a couple of matches as opposed to possibly just 1. And more importantly, it means that if you have a bad game, a distraction, a completely fluke accident you've never done before, then you have a chance to fight on.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2048
Way to go MLG making something simple (double elim tourney) incredibly confusing and hard to understand.

As someone who's played in dozens of these double elim tourneys, I don't at all get why you wouldn't just have the grand finals be 2 bo3 sets, with the player coming from winner's only needing 1 set to win.

Oh well, should be a fun grand final either way

I blame korea for running single elim tourneys =P
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 28 2010 20:37 GMT
#2049
On August 29 2010 05:33 Noxide wrote:
This format just doesn't work for 1v1 RTS.

You lose, you should be out. Bo3 single elimination is the best, finals you can do Bo5. Gom's Intel Classic format if you need an example. Worked really well and each final the best player won so the best should still be at the end giving you the best possible final.

Already being handicapped in the final game is a huge mental block and definitely not good.



Uh, you realize without double-elim, we'd be in a Bo5 right now and the score would still be 2-1? He'd be down a game... in the final game. There is hardly a difference. At least this way it's a Bo7.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2050
I wonder how many people on TL like double elim more than single elim? I know I do.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2051
On August 29 2010 05:36 Adonisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:32 Shikyo wrote:
This old spice commercial is like the most genius thing ever

Speaking of Old Spice and Husky...



Lol.

That is soooo wrong

I was started to building respects for husky.... Respects lost :c
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2052
On August 29 2010 05:36 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I'm pretty sure it will be Best of 7, starting at 2-0, regardless of the fact that the first series was 2-1.

No it's 2x BO3. It says specifically in the rules that matches are best-of-3.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2053
On August 29 2010 05:35 Alou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:33 Noxide wrote:
This format just doesn't work for 1v1 RTS.

You lose, you should be out. Bo3 single elimination is the best, finals you can do Bo5. Gom's Intel Classic format if you need an example. Worked really well and each final the best player won so the best should still be at the end giving you the best possible final.

Already being handicapped in the final game is a huge mental block and definitely not good.



Format works fine. Idiots just can't understand how it's fair to all the players.

The thing I mostly have a problem with is that if you've played before, you'll be behind in the BoX. I think that it should be the same for everyone, who you played before should be in the past and I think that 2 straight Bo3's would be a lot more fair. It's actually how I switched the format back when we did SSBM tournaments using MLG ruleset. This is the only thing I had problems with, I don't think that the past games vs that player should count like this.
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ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2054
holy shit it's the same thing, the only difference in an extended series is the bracket isn't reset if the loser wins a bo3
w2w
Pezo
Profile Joined August 2010
England156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:39:06
August 28 2010 20:38 GMT
#2055
Lol i still love how people here will just find anything to complain about...
Iggyhopper
Profile Joined July 2010
United States259 Posts
August 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#2056
On August 29 2010 05:37 Earll wrote:
so 24 minutes to finals start yessums? Some people say 5:30, but the MLG Stream says 5:00, unless they by "show" mean 30 minutes of comercial and then finals.

It says 5pm. That's ~20 minutes from now in EST.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#2057
On August 29 2010 05:37 Trumpet wrote:
Way to go MLG making something simple (double elim tourney) incredibly confusing and hard to understand.


"The championship finals of a double elimination tournament is usually set up to be a possible two games. The rationale is that since the tournament is indeed double elimination, it is unfair to have the Winners' Bracket champion eliminated with its first loss. Therefore, while the Winners' Bracket champion needs to beat the Losers' Bracket champion only once to win the tournament, the Losers' Bracket champion must beat the Winners' Bracket champion twice.

In some tournaments, however, the final game is always winner-take-all, or always a best-of-three set of games, with the usual advantage of the last Winner's Bracket team ignored."

Replace games with best of three and best of three with best of seven and you have the SC2 MLG version of double elimination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-elimination_tournament
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
August 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#2058
On August 29 2010 05:37 Thadorus wrote:
how much $ did socke win?


1st: (International) TBA - $2500
2nd: (International) TBA - $1500
3rd: (International) TBA - $1000
4th: United States Nick "Lastshadow" De Cesare - $700
5th: Sweden Jeffrey "SjoW" Brusi - $500
6th: United States Rori "CauthonLuck" Bryant-Raible - $350
7th: United States KyungHyun "SeleCt" Ryoo - $250
8th: United States Payam "TTOne" Toshyan - $200
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
guluru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
August 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#2059
On August 29 2010 05:36 AmiPolizeiFunk wrote:
I'm pretty sure it will be Best of 7, starting at 2-0, regardless of the fact that the first series was 2-1.


Straight from MLG (right next to the video)

KiWiKaKi takes the win on Delta Quadrant with great use of Stalkers to take the series 2-0. He will be going on to face HuK in the Grand Finals in a continuation of their Upper Final match. HuK will keep his 2-1 lead as they play out a best-of-seven for the title.

I'm not sure how this is confusing so many people
sNes.
Profile Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
August 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#2060
is that guy Jax? with the glasses from complexity?..kinda looks like him..
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