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zTz
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States476 Posts
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1981
On August 29 2010 05:26 dbddbddb wrote:
I beleive it's a protoss vs huk finals.


Lol? )
where's the rants n flames section?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:28:54
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1982
On August 29 2010 05:26 Avrithor wrote:
Handicapped finals is pretty lame. I'd rather see a straight Bo7, regardless of whether they played in a previous round.


apparently some of u don't understand how tournaments work


(what ur suggesting would be the least fair thing ever)
Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1983
Why are you all saying that Huk has a 2-0 advantage ? He won by 2-1 so that is the score from which the bo7 starts.
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1984
I think a handicapped final is not the ideal competition to end a tournament. Surely somebody who made it through the loser bracket already had to win more games than the winner bracket finalist, why not put the players on even footing in the grand final?

But I am curious, had Kiwi been knocked into the loser bracket by someone other than HuK, then made it to the finals against HuK, would he still have to win 4 games?
Cohedra
Profile Joined July 2010
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:29:39
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1985
Have none of you actually watched a double-elim tournament before? The "Losers' bracket" is a second chance, why should someone who already lost once have an equal chance against someone who has gone undefeated?

Edit: Because Huk is the one who knocked Kiwikaki to the Losers' it's an extended series. If someone else had knocked kiwikaki down - kiwikaki would have to win 2 bo3s compared to Huk only having to win 1.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 28 2010 20:28 GMT
#1986
Unless they've changed their rules or I'm completely forgetting how the series went, Kiwi will be down 1 game to 2. Not 0 - 2. The previous score carries over, not simply a 2 game advantage.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:29:35
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1987
On August 29 2010 05:28 benjammin wrote:
why can't they just run it like every other tournament ever and make kiwikaki have to win two series and huk only need to win one?


They already have played one bo3, and MLG has decided (reasonably) that having them play two more is overkill.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1988
On August 29 2010 05:26 Avrithor wrote:
Handicapped finals is pretty lame. I'd rather see a straight Bo7, regardless of whether they played in a previous round.

Thats stupid because Huk never lost a game
Carl_Sagan
Profile Joined March 2010
United States226 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1989
why can't they just run it like every other tournament ever and make kiwikaki have to win two series and huk only need to win one?



Dude, think about what you're saying. That would mean Kiwi would need to win four games, and Huk only two.


THAT'S EXACTLY THE CURRENT SITUATION.

People, brains, please.
zex66
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada651 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1990
On August 29 2010 05:28 benjammin wrote:
why can't they just run it like every other tournament ever and make kiwikaki have to win two series and huk only need to win one?


That's what a BO7 is essentially, like someone posted earlier kiwikaki has to win 2 BO3s and Huk only has to win 1.
soki
Profile Joined March 2010
United States40 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1991
ITT: People who don't understand "double elimination"...
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/270391/1/Soki/
Pezo
Profile Joined August 2010
England156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:30:24
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1992
For the people who are complaining about the final Its double examination tourney, so at least if you lose you get a second chance rather than going straight out. Plus as other people have said its only fair that Huk gets an advantage for beating him before and staying in the winners bracket.
Funkatron
Profile Joined July 2010
United States725 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1993
On August 29 2010 05:26 HighDistortion wrote:
Its called an extended series which is normal in a double elim bracket.......since huk won 2-0 the 1st time he goes into the finals up 2-0 to start

it was 2-1
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
August 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#1994
On August 29 2010 05:28 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Unless they've changed their rules or I'm completely forgetting how the series went, Kiwi will be down 1 game to 2. Not 0 - 2. The previous score carries over, not simply a 2 game advantage.
That's correct. Commentators must have made a mistake.
aaaaa
ekaj
Profile Joined February 2010
United States174 Posts
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#1995
are tournaments this new to the sc community
w2w
Iggyhopper
Profile Joined July 2010
United States259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:31:54
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#1996
On August 29 2010 05:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
PvP in bw wasn't much better, it just had a lot more harassment.

Yeah I don't see a whole lot of warp prisms. They don't even cost gas! I think P needs to evolve a little more. Colossus drops would be great, as long as you're good enough to not lose it.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#1997
On August 29 2010 05:29 Carl_Sagan wrote:
Show nested quote +
why can't they just run it like every other tournament ever and make kiwikaki have to win two series and huk only need to win one?



Dude, think about what you're saying. That would mean Kiwi would need to win four games, and Huk only two.


THAT'S EXACTLY THE CURRENT SITUATION.

People, brains, please.


No it's not the same.

Kiwi goes LWW in first and LWW in 2-nd.He wins.If it's a bo7 he will have lost 4:3.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:32:36
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#1998
On August 29 2010 05:28 Gaius Baltar wrote:
I think a handicapped final is not the ideal competition to end a tournament. Surely somebody who made it through the loser bracket already had to win more games than the winner bracket finalist, why not put the players on even footing in the grand final?

But I am curious, had Kiwi been knocked into the loser bracket by someone other than HuK, then made it to the finals against HuK, would he still have to win 4 games?


Kiwi would have to win 2 Bo3 then.

You don't put them on even footing because that's giving the LB person (Kiwi) a free pass for losing in the tournament, allowing him to actually lose a series yet win the tournament, yet if HuK were to lose one straight-up Bo7 (his only tournament loss) like that he actually would have been punished for losing once while Kiwi was not.
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Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:31:41
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#1999
On August 29 2010 05:30 ekaj wrote:
are tournaments this new to the sc community
well, most of the korean stuff is single elim, and this bracket rule is different than how most tournaments are run, because the rule comes into effect for any rematch that occurs in the lower bracket, not just the final.
aaaaa
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 28 2010 20:30 GMT
#2000
If it wasn't double elimination, KiWiKaKi would already be going home.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
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