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Dracover
Australia177 Posts
On September 09 2016 00:58 Teoita wrote: It isnt, rushing for a mothership is extremely expensive and it sacrifaces too much of your ground army if you go for it early on Completely agree don't rush a mothership. I'm just observing from people I've seen who often forget the mothership is even a unit. | ||
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PPN
France248 Posts
On September 09 2016 00:53 Davec433 wrote: What are alternate ways to deal with Roach/Hydra/Lurker with Immortal/Chargelots/Archon without using Phoenix lift? Is using a Mothership and sniping Overseers viable? If you are comfortable with Disruptors control, I think they can deal pretty well with that. Lurkers need 2 shots, Roach/Hydra 1. | ||
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Icekin
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TedBurtle
Belarus201 Posts
On September 16 2016 03:38 Icekin wrote: Anyone play 3 gate gladept into double star gate phoenix into third base in pvz? Watched rotti doing this build yesterday...would like to know how is and if there are any tip just seek vods/reps of PvZ , that 4-6 month old....its like first stable meta build in PvZ in LOTV...then got substituted by stargate-3gate into doble robo, and now adept pressure into blink robo is more popular...but SG build still effective, and on some maps even better ;o | ||
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Davec433
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Alluton
Finland113 Posts
On September 16 2016 05:11 Davec433 wrote: What's the best way to deal with speedling roach/Ravager? You need to provide more information (base count, drone count, timing/all-in/macro, your opener etc.) preferably a replay. | ||
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Davec433
18 Posts
On September 16 2016 05:39 Alluton wrote: You need to provide more information (base count, drone count, timing/all-in/macro, your opener etc.) preferably a replay. Here's the BO: http://lotv.spawningtool.com/build/7382/ I went 3 gate Adept Pressure into TC then Robo off two bases trying to secure a third on Apothosis. | ||
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lazy-jay
10 Posts
I was wondering if there are any new (LOTV) overall guides on playing Protoss or SC2 in general. There is an extremely good , but old guide around: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/208343-how-to-improve-efficiently-at-sc2-1v1 Now, I am looking for something new for LOTV in particular for Protoss which is similar. As far as my understanding of the game goes, it is not important what kind of build order you execute or what kind of units you choose if you do not do this properly (at least unitl you get into high Diamond league): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/326528-underused-tactic-in-lower-leagues Do you think that those two threads are still valid in LOTV? I have seen a lot of discussion from players in silver to plat league asking what to do against mass this and fast that and mostly they get specific answers like: "you need to build X or Y as a counter". Wouldn't it be better to tell them 1. build probes 2. build pylon 3. spend your money 4. watch minimap 5. move your army Since, currently I believe this is still the best counter until you get into higher leagues, I would really appreciate if someone could provide a guide for doing this in a correct way in LOTV or otherwise, if this is not valid anymore in LOTV help me with better guidance? I am currently high gold league. Regards | ||
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Alluton
Finland113 Posts
On September 16 2016 22:29 lazy-jay wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there are any new (LOTV) overall guides on playing Protoss or SC2 in general. There is an extremely good , but old guide around: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/208343-how-to-improve-efficiently-at-sc2-1v1 Now, I am looking for something new for LOTV in particular for Protoss which is similar. As far as my understanding of the game goes, it is not important what kind of build order you execute or what kind of units you choose if you do not do this properly (at least unitl you get into high Diamond league): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/326528-underused-tactic-in-lower-leagues Do you think that those two threads are still valid in LOTV? I have seen a lot of discussion from players in silver to plat league asking what to do against mass this and fast that and mostly they get specific answers like: "you need to build X or Y as a counter". Wouldn't it be better to tell them 1. build probes 2. build pylon 3. spend your money 4. watch minimap 5. move your army Since, currently I believe this is still the best counter until you get into higher leagues, I would really appreciate if someone could provide a guide for doing this in a correct way in LOTV or otherwise, if this is not valid anymore in LOTV help me with better guidance? I am currently high gold league. Regards Definitely agree with the new player advice. However in some situations providing more specific advice is also good. (like anything on one base, some really weird/bad stuff (explaining why it is bad is a good way to improve understanding.)) Also you need to provide more specific feedback then just telling to macro better. You need to look at their replays and compare to pros and or some other relatively high level players and make sure to point out the drastic macro differences, make sure they understand how big their mistakes are and what those mistakes even are (like making early static D, not spending resources, forgetting workers, not expanding, supply blocks etc.) But just telling someone to macro better won't help. Concrete example and some hand holding are required to get those players a good start. Also teaching them to look at their replays so they can continue to improve their macro on their own is important. Edit: those posts looked good to me. | ||
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Davec433
18 Posts
On September 16 2016 22:29 lazy-jay wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there are any new (LOTV) overall guides on playing Protoss or SC2 in general. There is an extremely good , but old guide around This a PvZ guide I use: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/499898-probes-chargelot-immortal-macro-pvz I wish I had a good PvT and PvP one that was Indepth. | ||
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lazy-jay
10 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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Davec433
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
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hannamarin
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On September 19 2016 09:50 [PkF] Wire wrote: proxy reaper into 2 factories mass cyclones with upgrade, floating the proxy rax to keep vision for the lock-ons : what should be the plan ? i beat this with a reactive 2g robo, stalkers + wp, pickup+drop each lockon. i even kept remaking WP's when i had to but you should be able to prevent it from dying (my micro was bad) its very strong because usually i use ramps to beat the 2 fac stuff, but with the rax, its harder. against this i give up natural and pylon the ramp. if my msc has full energy since i try to defend with just stalker, then i can overcharge to damage the rax, as well as wearing it down each time he retreats | ||
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Alluton
Finland113 Posts
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Davec433
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AusProbe
Australia235 Posts
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DrunkenJedi
Germany175 Posts
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