The LotV Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 75

On December 21 2019 04:18 Solio wrote:
does someone know how to defend this : https://drop.sc/replay/12658023 ?

On December 19 2019 09:15 Solio wrote:
How to defend a 12 pool but with a proxy hatchery that prevents you from walling, i have tried to chronoboost 2 zealots and pull 6 probes i'm able to barely win the fight but then more lings come and i die.

image of the zerg build :

Should i try to build a wall behind the hatch or should i try to pull more probes ?

On January 08 2020 11:26 Aesto wrote:
@Kertorak:
Watching pro replays is good advice because it gives you a frame of reference for roughly what you should have at a given point in time. Knowing how many Probes to have requires a feeling for the game, and watching replays helps with that.

That being said, another good reference is your opponent (if you check after the game). If you're playing macro games, you should generally be aiming to be about 5 Probes ahead against Terran, about 5 Probes ahead against Zerg until about 40 Probes, after that his econ kicks in and you'll be 5-10 Probes behind. In PvP it's harder to say because the matchup is so volatile. If you're too far ahead you might have to sacrifice some in order not to die.

Making workers when you don't have bases to put them in is something you almost never do in SC2, and especially not as Protoss (only if someone contains you). You make one base, saturate it, and then perhaps you make the next. Against Terran you should aim to be making your 3rd (and any more bases) a bit earlier than him, against Zerg you should aim to not be more than 1 base behind, and against Protoss it's again really hard to explain.

As for Chronoboost - it's not really comparable to the Zerg economy because you can also spend it on upgrades and units. There is no "correct" chrono use, while injecting is just required to not be bad. As a general rule, use it on workers until you have about 40, after that, on upgrades. Use it on units if you really need them asap. Also boost your first gateway unit (which you usually use to scout). Watching pro replays is an excellent source of information on what to Chronoboost.

And yes, unless there is a reason not to (incoming timing attack), you should be constantly making probes until saturation.

@david0925:
You don't micro Phoenix wars. All that matters is 1) how many Phoenix you have compared to your opponent, 2) where your Phoenix are on the map (no use in being up 1-2 Phoenix if they're just leaving your base if the rest of your fleet is in your opponent's base), and 3) whether either player has Phoenix range. Besides not fighting over your opponent's Shield Batteries/Cannons, there is no micro involved.