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KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1150 Posts
June 14 2016 10:23 GMT
#821
In a Split map scenario, TvZ in encountered zerg heavy Air. Mass corruptor and some broodlords. It was a pretty passive game. I went mech on 4 bases and zerg got his 4-5 bases count corruptor only with 4-5 broodlords.


My army: Tanks (and later Thors) + Vikings
His army 15-40 Corruptors and 2-5 Broodlords.

His ability: Run to any of my bases, press the corruptor barf button and kill it, run away.The ground army was figthing Broodlings and the Vikings died to ever more Corruptors due to his advantage of mining. He did not ever used Fungal or Vipers...because he did not need to. His trades were more effcient.

15 Corruptos kill a PF +armor even when counter repaired. T_T

Thors do no critical damage against Corruptors, Thors do no damage against Broodlords. Viikings move and shoot so slow they don't save a PF either. They kill 1-3 Corruptors. Thats it.
Liberators well...hrmm they died instantly thanks to nerf doing nothing.


"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 14 2016 11:58 GMT
#822
Come on, at least try to formulate a question and make a proper post with a replay.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#823
thors do no damage against broodlords

Wrong the new thor is really good against broodlords.
If he had only 2-5 broodlords you should be able to easily kill them with thors, even 10-15 broodlords can be beaten with thors.
Also the counter to corruptor piss is building turrets.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Damien
Profile Joined January 2009
Brazil131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 19:27:06
June 14 2016 18:57 GMT
#824
On June 14 2016 13:06 wjat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 13:26 Damien wrote:
How do you guys counter that pylon rush that protoss uses to create and cancel it over and over again? I use to send 6 scv for each pylon, because this is the exact number necessary to deny the warp, but if protoss cancel these pylons, I lost too much mine timing. How do you guys counter it?
When on little air distance maps, they send the mothership core to hit the pylons and attack me, but even if I am able to deny the pylons, protoss just get ahead.



scoot protoss base with scv and keep reaper home to kill the probe




Ty! I noticed it when I watched the replays. Sometimes I sent reaper to scout and his probe started to build pylons on my base. But sometimes, protoss started to build it so early. I will send a replay later, because my game is upgrading right now.
Damien
Profile Joined January 2009
Brazil131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-14 19:31:14
June 14 2016 19:03 GMT
#825
On June 14 2016 00:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2016 13:26 Damien wrote:
How do you guys counter that pylon rush that protoss uses to create and cancel it over and over again? I use to send 6 scv for each pylon, because this is the exact number necessary to deny the warp, but if protoss cancel these pylons, I lost too much mine timing. How do you guys counter it?
When on little air distance maps, they send the mothership core to hit the pylons and attack me, but even if I am able to deny the pylons, protoss just get ahead.

We need more information, when does he build the pylons, where does he place them? What do you mean with "cancel and create over and over?



Protoss sent the scout probe early, then he came into my base and started to create pylons randomly. I needed to put my SCV out minerals (6 by pylon) because some maps are too close by air, and they send MSC to make pylons shot. When he notice that some pylon will be done, he just cancel it over and over again, so I need to leave mining and at some moment, he cancel all pylons that is being warping. So, even if he didn't attacked me with MSC, he will be still ahead.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
June 15 2016 17:56 GMT
#826
Maybe a dumb question, but is there a shortcut to activate or deactivate the autocast on the cyclone?

It's extremly tedious and dangerous to do it by right clicking on the lock icon i feel
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55571 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-15 18:01:03
June 15 2016 18:00 GMT
#827
On June 16 2016 02:56 JackONeill wrote:
Maybe a dumb question, but is there a shortcut to activate or deactivate the autocast on the cyclone?

It's extremly tedious and dangerous to do it by right clicking on the lock icon i feel

I'm pretty sure selecting all units of the same type and then using Alt + the ability hotkey enables/disables autocast where it's available. Like, Alt + R enables auto-repair on selected SCVs.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
June 15 2016 18:08 GMT
#828
Eurk that's impractical as hell i fucking despise using alt... Is there any way to change that? Like to set i dunno ctrl instead of alt? I've been looking through the shortcut and i don't see any mention of it
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
June 16 2016 15:52 GMT
#829
Hey guys, lately in tvz there is a 2 medivac timing with full of marines which is really strong. I can't find the build order of it, does anyone know where can i find it?
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
June 16 2016 16:52 GMT
#830
I think byun did it at SSL this morning against Impact. Dunno if that helps, but if you happen to be able to watch the vods you might be able to have a look at his build
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
June 17 2016 12:49 GMT
#831
Yeah he did that vs Rogue, found the vod thanks
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
June 17 2016 18:53 GMT
#832
Oh yeah rogue that's right
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 17 2016 20:30 GMT
#833
On June 15 2016 04:03 Damien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2016 00:15 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 13 2016 13:26 Damien wrote:
How do you guys counter that pylon rush that protoss uses to create and cancel it over and over again? I use to send 6 scv for each pylon, because this is the exact number necessary to deny the warp, but if protoss cancel these pylons, I lost too much mine timing. How do you guys counter it?
When on little air distance maps, they send the mothership core to hit the pylons and attack me, but even if I am able to deny the pylons, protoss just get ahead.

We need more information, when does he build the pylons, where does he place them? What do you mean with "cancel and create over and over?



Protoss sent the scout probe early, then he came into my base and started to create pylons randomly. I needed to put my SCV out minerals (6 by pylon) because some maps are too close by air, and they send MSC to make pylons shot. When he notice that some pylon will be done, he just cancel it over and over again, so I need to leave mining and at some moment, he cancel all pylons that is being warping. So, even if he didn't attacked me with MSC, he will be still ahead.


Excuse the late answer I didn't check the thread.
I never played vs someone who did this but I don't think you should pull scvs to kill his pylons. Just make a bunker next to them and maybe a 2nd rax and try to gun down the pylons with marines. If he activates overcharge just retreat until it's over.
The msc doesn't have unlimited energy.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
AleXusher
Profile Joined September 2014
280 Posts
June 18 2016 09:11 GMT
#834
i still cant defend cannon rush... i feel so bad now

http://ggtracker.com/matches/6692899 i read the long post about it already, but still cant handle it...
Master League Terran Gameplay - https://www.youtube.com/user/AleXusher92 // Cheap Highlevel coaching - https://www.gamersensei.com/senseis/alexusher
wjat
Profile Joined August 2015
385 Posts
June 18 2016 18:30 GMT
#835
On June 18 2016 18:11 AleXusher wrote:
i still cant defend cannon rush... i feel so bad now

http://ggtracker.com/matches/6692899 i read the long post about it already, but still cant handle it...


Hi, I watched your game and here is my lil advice, hope it will help.

The probe arrives in your base at 0:50, its way too early and it screams canon rush!So set your mindset into defense mode, so chase that probe already! When the probe drop the pylon you also do not react accordingly!

-Regarding this specific game, and the pylon placement you should have:
1) block the ramp with a supply depot, no need to finish it now, use the scv to make sure nothing is behind build in front of your closed wall.
2) send scv to kill the pylon before it finish (don't take your second gaz)
3) chase and kill the locked probe. (might need your first marine to kill it)

Damien
Profile Joined January 2009
Brazil131 Posts
June 19 2016 07:21 GMT
#836
On June 18 2016 05:30 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2016 04:03 Damien wrote:
On June 14 2016 00:15 Charoisaur wrote:
On June 13 2016 13:26 Damien wrote:
How do you guys counter that pylon rush that protoss uses to create and cancel it over and over again? I use to send 6 scv for each pylon, because this is the exact number necessary to deny the warp, but if protoss cancel these pylons, I lost too much mine timing. How do you guys counter it?
When on little air distance maps, they send the mothership core to hit the pylons and attack me, but even if I am able to deny the pylons, protoss just get ahead.

We need more information, when does he build the pylons, where does he place them? What do you mean with "cancel and create over and over?



Protoss sent the scout probe early, then he came into my base and started to create pylons randomly. I needed to put my SCV out minerals (6 by pylon) because some maps are too close by air, and they send MSC to make pylons shot. When he notice that some pylon will be done, he just cancel it over and over again, so I need to leave mining and at some moment, he cancel all pylons that is being warping. So, even if he didn't attacked me with MSC, he will be still ahead.


Excuse the late answer I didn't check the thread.
I never played vs someone who did this but I don't think you should pull scvs to kill his pylons. Just make a bunker next to them and maybe a 2nd rax and try to gun down the pylons with marines. If he activates overcharge just retreat until it's over.
The msc doesn't have unlimited energy.




Here is the replay: http://ggtracker.com/matches/6694047

I can't watch it anymore. The game crushes when I try to watch it, because it's an old version.
AleXusher
Profile Joined September 2014
280 Posts
June 19 2016 09:42 GMT
#837
thank you wjat

another question. how do i scout that a roach ravager speedling attack is comming? Even if i scout a roach warren i never know if it is set offensively or defensivly. Also the speedlings kill my reaper, so in most cases i cant even scout it rly, nor if there is a 3rd base, and even if there is a 3rd, it could also just be for larva
Master League Terran Gameplay - https://www.youtube.com/user/AleXusher92 // Cheap Highlevel coaching - https://www.gamersensei.com/senseis/alexusher
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 19 2016 13:53 GMT
#838
scout his gas and third timing
AleXusher
Profile Joined September 2014
280 Posts
June 19 2016 13:54 GMT
#839
and how do i then preciely know when and that it is comming and nothing else?
Master League Terran Gameplay - https://www.youtube.com/user/AleXusher92 // Cheap Highlevel coaching - https://www.gamersensei.com/senseis/alexusher
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
June 19 2016 13:55 GMT
#840
On April 06 2016 19:48 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2016 07:54 Tudou wrote:
I am a diamond terran, having a few questions.
When playing with zerg, how to defend the zerglings/banelings rush or roach rush? It is really hard to scout, and determine if the zerg decides to rush you.
Especially you opens with hellions, you need a pretty good skill to stop zerglings/banelings rush, and no way to block a roach rush.

For scouting:
Open reaper expand, also scv scout if you're afraid of gas/pool before hatch builds on 2player maps. It's important that your reaper scouts the gas, 3 drones on gas after 100 gas is mined means some kind of tech build is coming. Keep your reaper active on the Zerg's side of the maps, pay attention to his natural's drone count. I don't know your league, but at higher levels counting the drones on the natural @100 gas mined is important, if he's mining with 3-4 drones it means he pulled off gas. If you know he has mined a lot of gas, suicide the reaper into one base if need be and scan the base that the reaper didn't see. You will see his gas count and wether he's getting a lair or not, that's basically all the information you need.

It all comes down to being active with the reaper.


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