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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
May 05 2014 07:46 GMT
#81
Too much e-fame ruins people.
Cortza
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa328 Posts
May 05 2014 07:52 GMT
#82
That ESEX article was quite funny.
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
May 05 2014 08:06 GMT
#83
"oh look at this very original build i'm naming after myself oh and if anyone else tries to claim credit for it it was actually used in wings way before they used it too but its still my build"

get out plagiarizer.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
EnPo
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland411 Posts
May 05 2014 09:18 GMT
#84
Oh please people... If we advertise Starcraft by saying that it has most mature fanbase out of big eSports games, this s not the mature fanbase...
If you guys go full drama on one name on some build that may work on ladder, but propably will never get used on high scale tournament that is watched by 50 000+ people and even then casters propably don't say that "omg it is build by Lillekanin" maybe just say that it is 2rax i factory build.
This has been happening all the time... people have took some build they have used and maybe someone else and may have put their name on TL thread, and nobody gave a shit..
Did anyone of you gave enough shits to make huge drama when you told a joke to your friedn and then the friend told that to rest of the people. I don't think that you did... Mature up please.
"Enpo has good builds and is good at executing those" -Serral 2018
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
May 06 2014 17:30 GMT
#85
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.
www.twitch.tv/mattmanni0n master terran and sometimes zerg :)
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
May 06 2014 17:49 GMT
#86
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
May 06 2014 17:57 GMT
#87
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
May 06 2014 20:14 GMT
#88
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.

did you make that one up? its clever.
www.twitch.tv/mattmanni0n master terran and sometimes zerg :)
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
May 07 2014 09:22 GMT
#89
On May 07 2014 02:57 B-rye88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.


If you were to create a build that actually works and someone copied it from you and called it his, would you be happy about that? Would you not discuss? Would you just let such asshole move slip? Somehow people seem to think that having no backbone is maturity.
agahamsorr0w
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands359 Posts
May 07 2014 11:07 GMT
#90
On May 07 2014 18:22 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:57 B-rye88 wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.


If you were to create a build that actually works and someone copied it from you and called it his, would you be happy about that? Would you not discuss? Would you just let such asshole move slip? Somehow people seem to think that having no backbone is maturity.


I agree with this. You should never let ppl walk over you.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 07 2014 12:18 GMT
#91
I cannot believe how many idiots is in SC2 community. Guy made a post about build order, and now people instead of talking about build, it pros and cons, talk about build name and who come up first with it.
This thread ephitomizes what is wrong with many SC2 community members.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
May 07 2014 13:43 GMT
#92
On May 07 2014 18:22 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:57 B-rye88 wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.


If you were to create a build that actually works and someone copied it from you and called it his, would you be happy about that? Would you not discuss? Would you just let such asshole move slip? Somehow people seem to think that having no backbone is maturity.



2 rax 1 factory goes all the way back to 2010. So what if someone discussed a form of the build. You can't seriously think that one person who claims to own this build is seriously wronged by this thread. He is simply trying to give struggling Terrans a build order they may of not heard of.

To think that some guy named FrozenImpact created this build and all credit should be given to him is just silly and ridiculous. I played SC2 for a year and a half before I even heard of Team Liquid or Reddit, and I can promise you I tried to do a 2 rax, 1 factory build. Are you saying that I too stole someones idea? When I had no chance of knowing someone was claiming it? Do you see how silly this is?

Grow up.
TL+ Member
aaycumi
Profile Joined March 2011
England265 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 15:53:30
May 07 2014 15:47 GMT
#93
http://sc2planner.com/?v=hots#TaaaaoEaaoFoDaacaoCloEoFfaoQaaoIaoEoPjiZaoEakfjiZaiHjiZk
A few ideas to throw around:
1). Make Marines until you have scouted no stargate > switch to reactor Mines?
2). Two Marauder production with Shells would require two Refineries.
3). The usual one base follow-up to any one base is 3/1/1 timing attack with 2-3 Siege Tanks.

The idea with a Minefield should be to camp Protoss's Gateways, etc. making it impossible to build units, Mines take too long to produce to make the proxy worth it so if you are proxying I recommend Marauders at the front with Bunkers and Hellions in Protoss base. WoL standard.

On May 07 2014 22:43 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 18:22 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:57 B-rye88 wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.


If you were to create a build that actually works and someone copied it from you and called it his, would you be happy about that? Would you not discuss? Would you just let such asshole move slip? Somehow people seem to think that having no backbone is maturity.



2 rax 1 factory goes all the way back to 2010. So what if someone discussed a form of the build. You can't seriously think that one person who claims to own this build is seriously wronged by this thread. He is simply trying to give struggling Terrans a build order they may of not heard of.

To think that some guy named FrozenImpact created this build and all credit should be given to him is just silly and ridiculous. I played SC2 for a year and a half before I even heard of Team Liquid or Reddit, and I can promise you I tried to do a 2 rax, 1 factory build. Are you saying that I too stole someones idea? When I had no chance of knowing someone was claiming it? Do you see how silly this is?

Grow up.

If I remember right, I think it was HopeTorture/IntotheRainbow, who came up with this build and made Banshee openings standard in TvT. But that was AGES ago, NEWFLASH, almost every idea in SC comes from the casual scene and develops in the Professional scene into workable ideas, see the first proper build in WoL was the Zatic build and see how that looked when it first came out, first season Stimpack rush is standard TvP. Meh
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
May 07 2014 18:04 GMT
#94
On May 07 2014 05:14 MattMannion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.

did you make that one up? its clever.

We should name it after him, we could say that you have just been Karpfenned.

But seriously, is the build any good? What are peoples experience with it?

And has anyone complained that he put [TvsP] in the title - who the hell says it that way - its TvP - noob
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 21:36:16
May 07 2014 21:35 GMT
#95
On May 07 2014 18:22 Karpfen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 02:57 B-rye88 wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.


An aspect of maturity IS letting insignificant things slide however.

This pretty much represents the definition of insignificant, as neither the 'aggriever' or the 'aggrieved' stands to benefit in any meaningful way from 'winning'.


If you were to create a build that actually works and someone copied it from you and called it his, would you be happy about that? Would you not discuss? Would you just let such asshole move slip? Somehow people seem to think that having no backbone is maturity.


Would I let the move slip? Yeap. Because neither frozen nor liillekanin will ever get anything out of this but self-importance and e-fame among perhaps 1,000 people. Woop-de-fucking doo. It's of absolutely zero-import, and the people blowing it up are small-minded, inflammatory, and not worthy of attention.
MattMannion
Profile Joined July 2012
United States25 Posts
May 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#96
omg why are you guys still complaining, holy shit lol.
www.twitch.tv/mattmanni0n master terran and sometimes zerg :)
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
May 08 2014 13:10 GMT
#97
On May 08 2014 03:04 DeadByDawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 05:14 MattMannion wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:49 Karpfen wrote:
On May 07 2014 02:30 MattMannion wrote:
seriously though, just take the advice in the thread and use it or not. if you don't like it or something about it, then ignore it. the only thing you guys know how to do in the sc2 community is make small thing into large things via bitching. as the man said about me, mature up.

Sorry, one is not mature because he lets bad acts slip. Get off your low horse.

did you make that one up? its clever.

We should name it after him, we could say that you have just been Karpfenned.

But seriously, is the build any good? What are peoples experience with it?

And has anyone complained that he put [TvsP] in the title - who the hell says it that way - its TvP - noob



Yea it's a good option vs Protoss. It's timing specific so I would recommend watching the vod he linked. Things like supply block will kill this build entirely.
TL+ Member
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
May 08 2014 13:58 GMT
#98
[Banner with OPs name on. Nothing else.]
[2 lines about how good the build is.]
[link to VOD on OPs twitch]
[link to OPs twitch channel]
[link to OPs facebook]
[link to OPs twitter]
[List of BO up to 21 supply, with OPs name as title]
[31 words (yes I counted them ) about what to do after 21 supply]
[Bashing other guy]
[Another paragraph bashing other guy]

It is great if you want to do great guides, help people and gain followers that way. But you put almost no effort at all into the guide and spam your name and links all over, taking a lot more space than the build itself. Independently of any childish fights for intellectual rights, the OP isn't really up to scratch for TL strategy guide, and is probably quite a bit to much self-advertisement for a relatively new poster. I'm a bit surprised that it is still open actually.

So if you want people to actually get a good impression of you, I'd recommend removing all the self-advertisement and flesh out the guide A LOT. What is the purpose of the build? What levels is it good at? When can I do it? What maps is it good at? How should I react to the toss build? How can/should the toss react? How can I counter follow-ups the toss can make? What parts are the most important in execution? etc.

As a team player (at looow level), and I know you are too, I'd also be interested how this works in 2v2 or 3v3. What to do differently, etc.

Then, if you do that properly (and only then!) you can put a short(!) note at the end that you'd be happy if people checked out your stream. Maybe even give some credit to your ex-friend for "valuable discussion", who knows?

Or, you can continue to fight a childish fight about who made exactly what minor changes and follow-ups to an archaeological build. Choice is yours. hfhf.
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
May 08 2014 14:42 GMT
#99
On May 08 2014 22:58 Cascade wrote:
[Banner with OPs name on. Nothing else.]
[2 lines about how good the build is.]
[link to VOD on OPs twitch]
[link to OPs twitch channel]
[link to OPs facebook]
[link to OPs twitter]
[List of BO up to 21 supply, with OPs name as title]
[31 words (yes I counted them ) about what to do after 21 supply]
[Bashing other guy]
[Another paragraph bashing other guy]

It is great if you want to do great guides, help people and gain followers that way. But you put almost no effort at all into the guide and spam your name and links all over, taking a lot more space than the build itself. Independently of any childish fights for intellectual rights, the OP isn't really up to scratch for TL strategy guide, and is probably quite a bit to much self-advertisement for a relatively new poster. I'm a bit surprised that it is still open actually.

So if you want people to actually get a good impression of you, I'd recommend removing all the self-advertisement and flesh out the guide A LOT. What is the purpose of the build? What levels is it good at? When can I do it? What maps is it good at? How should I react to the toss build? How can/should the toss react? How can I counter follow-ups the toss can make? What parts are the most important in execution? etc.

As a team player (at looow level), and I know you are too, I'd also be interested how this works in 2v2 or 3v3. What to do differently, etc.

Then, if you do that properly (and only then!) you can put a short(!) note at the end that you'd be happy if people checked out your stream. Maybe even give some credit to your ex-friend for "valuable discussion", who knows?

Or, you can continue to fight a childish fight about who made exactly what minor changes and follow-ups to an archaeological build. Choice is yours. hfhf.


So many condescending 's I could throw up.
TL+ Member
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
May 08 2014 14:45 GMT
#100
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