The HotS Zerg Help Me Thread - Page 66

On June 12 2013 04:01 CommanderS wrote:
Hey guys, i have 2 questions today.


2. ZvP/T: How do you open on 4 player maps if you get a late overlord scout and thus don't know if your opponent fast expands or goes for reapers/gateway first? Do you blindly open gas?

Thx in advance

On June 12 2013 04:46 Decendos wrote:
how do you play aggressive in ZvT or ZvP? ZvT yes you can go for roach bane all ins in some variations but is there any way to play a harrass or outright aggressive VIABLE style? i feel ZvP P got really good at easily defending any kind of aggression while they get their 3rd up. ZvT if you go for anything other than roach bane all in you will be on the backfoot defending with ling bane muta.

i feel blizz fucked up bigtime since the only way to win ZvP is to turtle with 15+ SHs behind spores and spines since the P deathball is way too strong to ever engage without mass static. ZvT is basically the same thing. roach bane all in or turtle somehow to ultra infestor which T figure out more and more to just kill Z before ultra + infestors pop.

its like blizz made roach ling bane hydra muta (vs the 100% SG openings of P) all in units that arent usable in a standard aggressive kind of play which is really sad

On June 12 2013 07:26 Asolmanx wrote:
ZvZ: How do you deal with economic 10 pools that try (and usually succeed) in killing or cancelling your natural hatchery? How can i tell a superaggressive 10 pool from an economic one? Do i try to save the hatch with my drones? Do i keep mining gas? Do i get lingspeed? I need pointers, because i'm really really lost.
I usually open 15 pool 15 gas 17 hatch 16 queen (my build is not questionable)

On June 12 2013 06:30 Airking990 wrote:
What's a really good time to take your natural in lower leagues(bronze)? especially for gas-heavy builds

On June 12 2013 10:10 Vestige wrote:
ZVP: how do you deal with forcefields? I ended up sending units back to my main to stop a warp prism and then he comes to my nat and a good chunk of my army is stuck in my main because of forcefields. Ended up losing my natural and i had secured a HUGE economic lead up until then. It kind of seems like none of that mattered because he just presses F clicks on my ramp and then bam. gg. Also in large battles too. just decides to split your army in half and then what? the other half runs but you still just lost half an army for nothing.

On June 12 2013 13:55 Slapsticks wrote:
I haven't played in a long time. What are some good, up-to-date build orders? Are the ones on the wiki trustable and hots-proof?

On June 12 2013 19:51 LardMaster wrote:
This is a kinda weird question but I think it doesn't deserve its own thread. Basically I want to get into playing quite seriously and want to know what level I'm at. I played a 1v1 this morning and got ZvP on Belshire. Now, I've played around 700 1v1s over a 2 year period, and many as protoss or terran and mostly just doing fun cheesy shit, so I'm not exactly the most experienced player ever, although I have been following the scene and kinda know what I'm doing in games. Anyway, I get this game against a masters Protoss, and he looks to be a solid mid-masters player by his ladder rankings from previous seasons, however, and I say this as humbly as possible, I crushed him. It wasn't even close at all and when I watched the rep afterwards I found myself very critical of his play and couldn't believe that it was mid-masters. Basically what I'm asking, if someone would be kind enough to do so, is to watch the replay and tell me a) if I won because he was bad or because I was good, and b) if that really is mid-masters play. Thanks in advance, here's the rep <3

On June 13 2013 00:04 willstertben wrote:


dude. that is one game. no.

On June 13 2013 00:20 LardMaster wrote:

Dude. That is one game. I asked for feedback on that one game.

On June 13 2013 02:37 Vestige wrote:


Not really much to get out of this post though..

"hey look i beat a master player. was he really a master player?"

league doesnt really mean anything because you cant get demoted anymore. He is in your MMR range apparently. thats all you need to know.