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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 13 2012 21:54 GMT
#561
Thanks for those, though I do want to encourage people to give a short description of the game, as I may not have time straight away to watch them
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#562
Saaaa's match overview list Including both bio and mech games.


the link for this is broken btw
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 02:12:28
December 14 2012 02:06 GMT
#563
On December 14 2012 03:07 kollin wrote:
Thanks, updating the OP now.


You forgot to put Sea vs Genius in your OP. Another TvP mech

Sea vs Genius - Game 1
http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/341990997?t=128m20s

Sea vs Genius - Game 2
http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/341990997?t=137m24s
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 14 2012 07:50 GMT
#564
Thanks for pointing the our zhurai, the link has been removed. Larse I'll include those when I can watch them, just so I can describe them in the way I like to.
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
December 14 2012 08:50 GMT
#565
Does anyone here know how to deal with mass carrier in hots? I guess HSM wont work since they dont do splash anymore T.T
Maru, TY, Clem <3
Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
December 14 2012 14:04 GMT
#566
On December 14 2012 17:50 CroWTV wrote:
Does anyone here know how to deal with mass carrier in hots? I guess HSM wont work since they dont do splash anymore T.T


vikings and ghost, emp carriers and then focus fire.
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
Latringuden
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden79 Posts
December 14 2012 14:11 GMT
#567
I loved how BaBy played a drop-style siege heavy mech against Symbol (TvZ) this week. Amazing play from BaBy that picked one of the strongest Zergs apart:

http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls5/vod/71081
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 14 2012 23:03 GMT
#568
Ok guys, sorry if I don't update the OP for the next few days, dealing with an injury within the family so I am quite busy.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 15 2012 09:26 GMT
#569
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=388279
As someone who doesn't have HOTS, I'm unsure about the quality of this guide, so could some decent player who does play HOTS tell me whether or not I should include it?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 15 2012 13:32 GMT
#570
OP updated with Sea vs Genius and Baby vs Symbol. I didn't include game 1 of Sea vs Genius because I didn't feel like it was proper mech, because the game ended so quickly. It would be great if you guys could help me find some mech TvT games that
a) Don't have some weird opening such as proxy reaper
b) Aren't on Caldeum because you are usually forced to go Reaper's
Thanks!
THEPPLsELBOW
Profile Joined November 2010
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 03:27:49
December 16 2012 03:23 GMT
#571
Here's some TvP mech wins I collected today, liquidSea style. (Note idk why drop.sc is saying they're in gold, but they're all in masters fyi)


http://drop.sc/284754
Good game where I manage to do nothing fancy besides solid play, didn't get any massive probe kills just sharked around with helions and outmacroed my opponents. I immediately build a barracks wall around my 3 bases (antiga) after I suicide my helions (had excess mins). They were pretty effective when he went in for the attack. I win when he gets antsy and tries to kill my ninja expo (not really ninja, more like ...trap expo) with a big army.


http://drop.sc/284753
Interesting game on daybreak, again solid macro game where I don't really get any free probe kills, but still outmacro my opponent because of my map control and proactive expansion checking. Poor defense allows a lot of helions to run around and severly damage his macro, he goes for an all out attack where I barely hold.


http://drop.sc/284752
Awesome game on Ohana, Very close engagements, had he had more intel and kept on pushing I probably would've lost. However, I botched up my Raven micro in the first place that led to me losing way more than I should. Shows some special tactics (observer snipe with 2 vikings then let 3 banshees go to town on immortals). Also Engi Bay placements on side expansions save my ass. Also, I win this game when he decides to take the bait, my PF expansion right underneath my main, I cut off retreat path and he fights a rigged engagement.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 16 2012 08:51 GMT
#572
Just before I include them, what league are you?
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 16 2012 09:06 GMT
#573
On December 16 2012 17:51 kollin wrote:
Just before I include them, what league are you?

looking at his drop.sc league -> battle.net
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/316396/1/THEPPLsELBOW/ladder/
masters
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 16 2012 09:43 GMT
#574
Thanks, I don't think I'll include it then, as I only really want Grandmaster or at least very high Master replay packs.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
December 16 2012 10:58 GMT
#575
On December 16 2012 18:43 kollin wrote:
Thanks, I don't think I'll include it then, as I only really want Grandmaster or at least very high Master replay packs.


I think you should include them but put them with titles relevant to the league the person is in.

Most people who read this thread let alone this forum won't be grandmaster or even very high masters and their games differ extremely compared to other peoples. The higher up you watch the build order you can learn for sure, but a diamond player for example needs to react completely differently to something that happens to a grandmaster player for example as all the timings are completely different.

I'd say it's just as important for someone diamond to study games at just above his level as well as at the highest level. Same goes for Plat looking at Diamond games and so on.

I know for example in WoL when I fell back to Gold after a massive long break I had and had to fight my way back up the ladder to diamond, every single game was completely different when I was playing Gold and Plat players, there was so much weird stuff and so many odd timings that shouldn't work, but they do at that level.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 16 2012 11:01 GMT
#576
On December 16 2012 19:58 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:43 kollin wrote:
Thanks, I don't think I'll include it then, as I only really want Grandmaster or at least very high Master replay packs.


I think you should include them but put them with titles relevant to the league the person is in.

Most people who read this thread let alone this forum won't be grandmaster or even very high masters and their games differ extremely compared to other peoples. The higher up you watch the build order you can learn for sure, but a diamond player for example needs to react completely differently to something that happens to a grandmaster player for example as all the timings are completely different.

I'd say it's just as important for someone diamond to study games at just above his level as well as at the highest level. Same goes for Plat looking at Diamond games and so on.

I know for example in WoL when I fell back to Gold after a massive long break I had and had to fight my way back up the ladder to diamond, every single game was completely different when I was playing Gold and Plat players, there was so much weird stuff and so many odd timings that shouldn't work, but they do at that level.


I understand your point, but I don't think you should be studying player's games that are your level. Even with the weird timings, at a non Grandmaster level you should be able to hold them with pure macro and scouting. I really want the replay section to just be for very high level games, similar to what the VOD section will become when we have more recent VODs available to us.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#577
If anyone has any TvT mech vods that are at a pretty high level it would be great to link them here! Weirdly, that's the only matchup we're lacking in ^^
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 17 2012 17:02 GMT
#578
It's cuz tvt is always scrappy and messy. There's no such thing as a clean tvt, even less so when you add mech to the equation.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 17 2012 17:05 GMT
#579
On December 18 2012 02:02 Nightmarjoo wrote:
It's cuz tvt is always scrappy and messy. There's no such thing as a clean tvt, even less so when you add mech to the equation.


It's just it seems also every single Terran in Proleague enjoys proxy reapering every TvT T_T
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2144 Posts
January 16 2013 21:19 GMT
#580
Do you have any replays of TvZ [Mech with ghost] against mass or many infestors?
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