I was shocked you managed to hold my aggression - I often take out GMs with that build, but your simcity was great, coupled with thors I didn't expect and a terrible choke that I panic-engaged in; great build

Shoebawka47

Canada8 Posts

July 15 2012 14:10 GMT

#82

Its a cool build , I commend you for making it. But if i were Zerg, crashin into the thors with banes to kill the scvs is the best thing to do , the scv's are the staple , then massing with lings will destroy it.

Captain Marksie

40 Posts

July 15 2012 14:39 GMT

#83

If the SCVs are the thing which holds this build together and the zergs kill the SCVs by crashing into the Thors with Banelings why not try retreating and splitting your SCVs away from your Thors when you see Banes coming in? Yeah it would be very micro intensive, especially since you would probably also have to take the SCVs off auto-repair to stop them clumping up and trying to repair the Thors, then remember to put them on auto-repair and surround the thors again evenly once the Banes have exploded. You would probably lose a lot of marines too since it would be hard to split both Marines and SCVs at the same time in such a small amount of time.

marand

4 Posts

July 15 2012 15:50 GMT

#84

On July 13 2012 07:13 marand wrote:
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Just created the account to say that this guide is awesome!
I'm diamond and this works fine for me and I even beat some master players with it.
I no longer need to sigh when I see that my opponent is Zerg

Yay! Finally got into masters! Thanks to this build. :-)
I feel that if Zerg goes for roaches its an easy win. When they manage to hold the push it has always been with banelings.

NoBanMeAgain

United States194 Posts

July 15 2012 21:22 GMT

#85

I haven't tried this build yet as i am at work...

but ihave a question? how does this build fare against someone massing speeds early? are the 16 repairing scv's enought to hold it? the reason i say this is cuz i am in gold league and ppl do stupid stuff all the time. also when you mention "hiding the armory and factories" would building proxy factories be worth it and save time in the push?

marand

4 Posts

July 15 2012 22:20 GMT

#86

On July 16 2012 06:22 ImANinjaBich wrote:
I haven't tried this build yet as i am at work...

If they don't have banelings it works fine for you. Just keep your thors in a tight formation.

ujonecro

United Kingdom846 Posts

July 16 2012 17:27 GMT

#87

On July 16 2012 06:22 ImANinjaBich wrote:
I haven't tried this build yet as i am at work...

That timing is too late for proxy, any decent zerg would scout it.

aRyuujin

United States5049 Posts

July 16 2012 17:35 GMT

#88

Great build, I often transition into tanks after the initial push to deal with mass roach. Expand with PFs, (I pull less SCVs than the OP) and you have a really solid Mech opening that you can transition into macro play with

honkeybeef

United States143 Posts

July 16 2012 23:31 GMT

#89

On July 15 2012 01:41 kollin wrote:
Which particular maps is this best on? I want to try it out, but also have a solid build that I'm liking at the moment, so I think I will switch between the two.

Small maps, because thors are very slow

Hypemeup

Sweden2783 Posts

July 18 2012 09:31 GMT

#90

Do you have a replay where your gas gets stolen? I am still unsure how to react after reading your answer.

crocodile

United States615 Posts

July 18 2012 13:43 GMT

#91

If the zerg goes for roach pressure, which is still common, they can see this coming and get out a ton of roaches in time. Coaches are underestimated in this match up; they are good vs marines without stim, medivacs, and high numbers.

9-BiT

United States1089 Posts

July 18 2012 16:53 GMT

#92

It seems like this would be very weak to banelings. Come around the back of the thors with speedlings, and come in with banelings. The lings will aggro the scvs because they are closer.

honkeybeef

United States143 Posts

July 21 2012 02:41 GMT

#93

I've been trying this, and it seems like everytime they go roach bane it shits all over this build. Then you just die because you did no damage and brought so many scvs :[

Its not a macro thing per se, I'm masters. I'm having a hard time believing this is better than normal play. Is anyone else getting shit on by roach bane with this build? I think its already figured out and just good play is much better.

edit- I should clarify that if they delay their 3rd and mass roach bane, I feel like its pretty close to autolose

StimmedProbe

Hong Kong98 Posts

July 21 2012 07:01 GMT

#94

On July 21 2012 11:41 honkeybeef wrote:
I've been trying this, and it seems like everytime they go roach bane it shits all over this build. Then you just die because you did no damage and brought so many scvs :[

Its not a macro thing per se, I'm masters. I'm having a hard time believing this is better than normal play. Is anyone else getting shit on by roach bane with this build? I think its already figured out and just good play is much better.

edit- I should clarify that if they delay their 3rd and mass roach bane, I feel like its pretty close to autolose

Your hellion should be able to scout if they took a 3rd base. If they haven't that means they are either teching to muta/infestors on two bases, or going for heavy units either for an all-in or they have scouted what you are doing and responding to it. You do NOT have to move out, you can easily plop down a 3rd CC and move your rax off the reactor and bam you are meching. You expanded fast, and have the infrastructure necessary for a macro game. You are in no way behind if you do not go for the timing. Post a replay, I'll take a look at it.

W0L0L0

France23 Posts

July 22 2012 14:36 GMT

#95

Sick build. I was searching for something like this for a long time.
Thanks for sharing.

singline

Australia1 Post

July 22 2012 14:39 GMT

#96

This has been working for me lately. But if I get hit by roaches early, I usually don't have enough to defend..

XxFro

United States5 Posts