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its not that you have to do a 2 base all in , the good thing with this is that you dont commit to an all in because you can scout before you decide to stay 2 base.[G] PvZ Anti stephano style build by EmpireMista - Page 2
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Empire.Mista
Greece150 Posts
its not that you have to do a 2 base all in , the good thing with this is that you dont commit to an all in because you can scout before you decide to stay 2 base. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Just roach corruptor into remax with roaches with some spines should hold this off easily. User was warned for this post | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 14 2012 17:52 syriuszonito wrote: Looks like a rly late 2 base all in that is going to die vs muta play He made it very clear that the strat is intended to counter the roach max. Switching from 3 base roach/ling max into mutas is very difficult. The Zerg player will have absolutely no gas banked and only be on 4 geysers. They would have to be very quick in determining that the protoss is not taking a third and is going colossi. Even then the zerg's only chance would be to base race because there's no way you're going to defend that push without fungal/spine/corruptor, it doesn't matter how many mutas you have. The protoss sits in base massing units and then a walks with colossi across the map. The zerg has to identify what you're doing(which is not easy), make the correct decision to completely deviate from their strategy and then defend well with fungal/spine/corruptor. Far superior zergs constantly lose to terribads using this strategy so I would say it's quite effective. | ||
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Chubz
France119 Posts
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 14 2012 18:08 Markwerf wrote: Just roach corruptor into remax with roaches with some spines should hold this off easily. Roach/corruptor generally, and especially in this case, gets murdered by death balls. The absolute only way to defend it in this situation is with fungal/spine/corruptors. | ||
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HoMM
Estonia635 Posts
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Letall
Sweden384 Posts
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piiiT
43 Posts
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Natespank
Canada449 Posts
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cephalalgia
Finland9 Posts
On May 14 2012 18:22 piiiT wrote: its funny how people say its a bad strategy when he beat stephano with it. Well, stephano was asked to play that game ling heavy by the stream. So that was just Stephano doing what ppl wanted to see on stream. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 14 2012 18:29 Natespank wrote: If the zerg is maxed on roaches, he ain't getting mutas for a bit. Zerg wouldn't be anywhere close to maxing when transitioning to mutas, would probably be at like 130-140 fd. There are lots of other problems with the idea of switching to mutas though. | ||
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Rimak
Denmark434 Posts
Just please add a [G] Tag, so it'll be easier to find in the future. This is extremely powerful push, designed to crush maxed roach-ling army. 4 colossi, blink, 3-2 grades... it's gonna hit as hard, as a sledgehammer to the face. | ||
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Macpo
453 Posts
I am wondering: how do you deal with roaches run bys? | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
If you accidentally put too much into a roach based army earlier in the game, you simply can't gather enough resources to stop it afterwards. It's incredibly frustrating. ZvP is so boring. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On May 14 2012 18:33 cephalalgia wrote: Well, stephano was asked to play that game ling heavy by the stream. So that was just Stephano doing what ppl wanted to see on stream. Yeah would like to see this against the real roach-ling style. | ||
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
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GodOfWarAReS
Germany105 Posts
i got a m8 who makes the so called "YuffFe". the build has two variantes ( A and B ) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Gate_Nexus_YufFE if he scouts early gas he take makes Variant A and makes a forge. If he scouts no gas he makes variant B, where he immidiatly takes a gas and makes core to produce stalkers and always keeps attacking with them.it forces SO many lings and he can scout what the zerg is really up to. without speed the zerg should hardly be able to secure the third without staying on 35 probes till the 8 minute mark. with this agressive style the 11-12 min maxout will be slowed down to about 14-15 minute-maxout which means you can take a quick third ( 9 minutes, if possible ) And be able to totally secure it with units. And: if he maxes out with roaches you will have immidiatly a force which can CRUSH it which wins you the game. so much on theory.. stalker + zealot harass ( up to 3 stalkers i think in the end of the harass ) is not very easy to do. User was warned for this post | ||
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MooLen
Germany501 Posts
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