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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 22 2012 04:40 GMT
#161
On August 22 2012 03:00 pyrostat wrote:
hey tang, which map do you think is best for this strat? from the ladder pool. daybreak?

Yeah daybreak and ohana
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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 22 2012 15:42 GMT
#162
On August 22 2012 03:03 Moosegills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 03:00 pyrostat wrote:
hey tang, which map do you think is best for this strat? from the ladder pool. daybreak?

This build is also good on antiga (if they wall at the ramp) because they will 99% of the time have a pylon in their wall to bust.

True, even if they wall back by their nexus, it's tough for them to use all big buildings.
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SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
August 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#163
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 22 2012 16:01 GMT
#164
On August 23 2012 00:56 SilSol wrote:
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!

So you're saying this style cures boredom? I should have mentioned that in the description...!
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tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
August 22 2012 16:32 GMT
#165
On August 23 2012 01:01 TangSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 00:56 SilSol wrote:
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!

So you're saying this style cures boredom? I should have mentioned that in the description...!

Haha yeah on one hand cures boredom, on the other incites rage!
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 24 2012 03:08 GMT
#166
On August 23 2012 01:32 tehemperorer wrote:
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On August 23 2012 01:01 TangSC wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:56 SilSol wrote:
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!

So you're saying this style cures boredom? I should have mentioned that in the description...!

Haha yeah on one hand cures boredom, on the other incites rage!

Haha indeed
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Rasper
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom25 Posts
August 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#167
On August 23 2012 00:56 SilSol wrote:
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!


Getting bored of FFE vs 3 fast hatch is mostly why I use this strategy!
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 25 2012 00:02 GMT
#168
On August 24 2012 21:31 Rasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 00:56 SilSol wrote:
yeah pretty good guide! i've done this strategy when i'm bored mostly!


Getting bored of FFE vs 3 fast hatch is mostly why I use this strategy!

That proves it! This style is effective and fun
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Nakranoth
Profile Joined December 2011
Spain10 Posts
August 30 2012 11:42 GMT
#169
On August 17 2012 08:35 HelloSon wrote:
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On August 17 2012 07:59 GenesisX wrote:
works like a charm :p but its hard if protoss goes sentry after zealot rather than stalker

One trick I've picked up is you can try to sacc your overlord to lure the sentry.


I always do this, the overlord is a retard magnet haha

thx to the OP, i've been doing this a lot since then when I see a very bad wall or a gas greedy protoss, going for example robo or stargate before sentry or even both.
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 31 2012 20:43 GMT
#170
On August 30 2012 20:42 Nakranoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 08:35 HelloSon wrote:
On August 17 2012 07:59 GenesisX wrote:
works like a charm :p but its hard if protoss goes sentry after zealot rather than stalker

One trick I've picked up is you can try to sacc your overlord to lure the sentry.


I always do this, the overlord is a retard magnet haha

thx to the OP, i've been doing this a lot since then when I see a very bad wall or a gas greedy protoss, going for example robo or stargate before sentry or even both.

Yeah it works well against greedy players, or players who send out Zealots/Stalkers to pressure/scout the third. Just gotta be careful not to reveal speed until the bust.
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SickeL
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
110 Posts
September 03 2012 05:52 GMT
#171
Tang, why do you like all ins so much? T~T I want to love you but I can't.
A wise man once said "Oppa Gangnam style."
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
September 03 2012 15:14 GMT
#172
On September 03 2012 14:52 SickeL wrote:
Tang, why do you like all ins so much? T~T I want to love you but I can't.

<3 haha
When I first got started in SC2, I played on a laptop and lagged too much in the mid/late game. I literally was forced to end the game before 10 minutes, and this mindset has stuck with me. I have a new desktop and I don't all-in nearly as often as those days, but yes, I do like all-ins a lot
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AndySCWilson
Profile Joined September 2010
43 Posts
September 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#173
So basically as long as they have a sentry out and can warp in sentrys you lose....

Or am I missing something here?
j.k.l
Profile Joined September 2012
112 Posts
September 11 2012 01:28 GMT
#174
only if you played terran or toss.

i too play zerg and i feel zerg isn't made for all ins. way too less affective imo then terran/toss all ins.
~ Spirit will set you free ~
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
September 11 2012 01:32 GMT
#175
On September 11 2012 09:40 AndySCWilson wrote:
So basically as long as they have a sentry out and can warp in sentrys you lose....

Or am I missing something here?



They also have to be watching and have the reaction time.

On the other hand, send an overlord into their main before you attack. The sentry will go up to kill it.
Cereal
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 11 2012 01:54 GMT
#176
On September 11 2012 09:40 AndySCWilson wrote:
So basically as long as they have a sentry out and can warp in sentrys you lose....

Or am I missing something here?


You might still fine, because you hit early enough before warpgate finishes. He has to forcefield the hole in his wall (and everyone leaves a hole these days) and then you attack any exposed pylons and the forge, and as soon as there is more than one hole he rapidly runs out of energy.

If he was blindly chronoboosting 3 sentries, you're probably out of luck, unless he really whiffs his forcefields or takes the overlord bait.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 11 2012 01:56 GMT
#177
anymore builds you working on Tang?

Your ZvZ aggression helped me get to masters.
Life: The New Champion!!
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
September 11 2012 21:51 GMT
#178
On September 11 2012 09:40 AndySCWilson wrote:
So basically as long as they have a sentry out and can warp in sentrys you lose....

Or am I missing something here?

Not necessarily. I don't think there are many builds where warpgate will complete in time to warp in new sentries, so in effect your opponent would need to chronoboost out his first three sentries (starting pretty early on) to hold this attack. Very few players do this, as they'll either be chronoboosting probes, their robo, or tech-upgrades.
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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
September 11 2012 21:52 GMT
#179
On September 11 2012 10:56 Doubting wrote:
anymore builds you working on Tang?

Your ZvZ aggression helped me get to masters.

Yes a few in the works another ZvZ will be first, on a style of baneling all-in (or is it?) lol

Even though I hate banelings in ZvZ, many players swear by them so I thought I'd do a guide on a more aggressive variation.
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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
September 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#180
On September 11 2012 10:28 j.k.l wrote:
only if you played terran or toss.

i too play zerg and i feel zerg isn't made for all ins. way too less affective imo then terran/toss all ins.

All races can execute highly effective all-ins.
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