Index finger for number keys

thumb on v

I'm going to try to use the hardcore method even though it seems inefficient. Keybinds are always faster than clicking the map... but it seems simpler and you don't have to deal with annoying queen hotkeys.

DarJir

9 Posts

April 26 2012 05:26 GMT

#142

Anyone else use a combo of hardcore and backspace style? No inject queens on hotkey. Just cycle through bases with hotkey and box to select queen when you get a larvae spawn.

Really starting to like it.

Valravn

Sweden64 Posts

April 26 2012 06:02 GMT

#143

I'm so hardcore with individual hatches set on 567 etc. I also have all hatches on 4 for ez unit production. I started out with 55v66v77v but I found that individual hatches lets me do the Day9-tap more effectively as well as never missing any upgrades from the hatcheries (because you're constantly reminded). That you can set individual rally points and create units from a specific hatch with ease are also benefits.

lhr0909

United States562 Posts

April 26 2012 19:15 GMT

#144

On April 26 2012 14:26 DarJir wrote:
Anyone else use a combo of hardcore and backspace style? No inject queens on hotkey. Just cycle through bases with hotkey and box to select queen when you get a larvae spawn.

Really starting to like it.

That is what I do right now. Feels so good and so efficient.

Lousy!

Canada73 Posts

April 26 2012 19:47 GMT

#145

Anyone else use minimap inject? I skimmed through the thread and it seems to be all backspace/hardcore.
Of course, with minimap inject, queens have to be on one hotkey. It's handy because I can watch my battles unfold and inject at the same time, and it forces me to look at my minimap once in a while

However, it's a bit slow if you click on the wrong blob of green and it tells you "Must target a Hatchery, Lair, or Hive" until you click on the right thing.

wUndertUnge

United States1125 Posts

April 26 2012 22:03 GMT

#146

I'm lucky enough to have a gaming mouse with extra buttons. Having the switch hatchery button on the mouse (pushed in with my thumb) has sped up my larva inject timings hugely.

Crugio

Australia45 Posts

April 27 2012 00:30 GMT

#147

New to zerg, but I tried the backspace method and didn't like the run about queens and when you have gas only bases later game. I also tried the minimap method and still had some queen runabouts.

Basically adopted "55v66v77v" type method (Queen + Hatch per hotkey) but with some easier to use hot key setups.

Caps, A, S, D, F : macro group hotkeys (obviously need to change hotkeys around)
Caps = All hatches
A = Queen + Main;
S = Queen + Hatch;
D = Queen + Hatch
etc.

The cool bit is this:
Spawn larva = W
Build queen = W

Result is that is my queen was sniped, I'll automatically build a queen from the hatch in next inject cycle (just have to be careful not to queue them up). When there is no queen grouped yet, I resort to a hardcore style and rehotkey Queen. It works out really well so far.

Genome852

United States979 Posts

April 28 2012 03:44 GMT

#148

On April 27 2012 04:15 lhr0909 wrote:

Show nested quote +

That is what I do right now. Feels so good and so efficient.

Dude that makes so much SENSE

Why do people even click the minimap to move to hatcheries for the hardcore style? Why did I not think of this? omg

Merikh

United States918 Posts

April 28 2012 09:30 GMT

#149

modified backspace injection: I use space instead of backspace. 5 -> shift -> (space + v) * n; n = random amount of times i flip through hatches

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

April 28 2012 10:19 GMT

#150

All queens on 1 hotkey, all hatches on 1 hotkey.

Center on hatchery and set camera:
control+shift+ q / w / d / a / s / f

To go to camera: alt+ q /w /d /a / s / f

Select all queens, hold shift and alt, press inject key -> q click w click d click a click s click f click
6 injects in about 0.3 seconds.

Stolen directly from the darkgrid layout. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257590

I don't see how anyone could call the "hardcore" method efficient. There's no way you can inject during battles....

HEN_iP

Australia16 Posts

April 28 2012 11:33 GMT

#151

I use the backspace method with the Center Hatchery rebinded to spacebar. All Hatches on 4 and all Queens on 5 and basically just inject that way. I usually have 3-5 queens in almost every game except vs. Zerg and I don't usually get more bases than that so it works out.

I did try the minimap method but it's not as quick and efficient as the others imo.

Numerical

Finland37 Posts

April 28 2012 14:47 GMT

#152

Bind queens to 5, press V and click a hatch on the minimap. Rinse and repeat 1-5 times. Easy, simple and fast.

Genome852

United States979 Posts

April 28 2012 23:53 GMT

#153

On April 28 2012 23:47 Numerical wrote:
Bind queens to 5, press V and click a hatch on the minimap. Rinse and repeat 1-5 times. Easy, simple and fast.

What if the spawn larva is not synced up for each hatchery? How would you know which ones haven't popped yet? Do you just look at the larva count?

lhr0909

United States562 Posts

April 29 2012 03:17 GMT

#154

On April 28 2012 23:47 Numerical wrote:
Bind queens to 5, press V and click a hatch on the minimap. Rinse and repeat 1-5 times. Easy, simple and fast.

Like I said earlier. It is good and all, just hard to build up muscle memory with minimap injects.

Sbrubbles

Brazil5776 Posts

April 29 2012 04:50 GMT

#155

Personally, my injects got a lot faster when I started doing a variant in the backspace method by remapping center on base to F1 (instead of backspace), queens to F2 (in addition to the usual hotkey 4) and inject to F3 (in addition to the usual hotkey v).

F1-F2-F3-*click*-F2-F3-*click*-F2-F3-*click* etc. Ezpz as long as you don't have more hatches than queens.

Sacrilege

United States199 Posts

April 29 2012 05:02 GMT

#156

(Note I use the Razer Naga mouse when I play.)

I bind all my queens to key '7'. Bind my hatches individually to 3,4, and 6 (place my macro hatch next to either my main or usually natural.) I go to each individual hatch and hit 7+V. My style is only really viable because of the Naga since it's my thumb doing all the hitting on the number keys and the buttons of course being all right next to each other, which means no distance to move my fingers/thumb.

For me personally I've gotten very good being quick about this style and a lot of players I practice with or play against comment about my injects being pretty good.

DropTester

Australia608 Posts

April 29 2012 07:01 GMT

#157

Ever sinced they released custom hotkeys I've always made used of the camera hotkeys. They are actually so helpful for playing with all races.
I bind all my hatches to one hotkey though which probably isnt as good.

Xapti

Canada2473 Posts

April 29 2012 07:29 GMT

#158

Nooby hardcore style. Just used to not hotkeying production since brood wars. I do hotkey hatches to a group though

I don't use hot-locations or hotkey queens, so the biggest problem I have is injecting in the late game and/or when attacking (or both), which can cause some pretty big macro problems sometimes

Millet

Sweden143 Posts

April 29 2012 10:24 GMT

#159

For everyone who uses the backspace method and are having trouble with queens bumping around from hatch to hatch, simply do this: After you're done with your inject sequence, press H or S to halt any queens that tries to bump from hatch to hatch. That way, most of your queens have already injected, and those who haven't can just be told to inject again with the same sequence. Because this method is so extremely fast, you can affoard to spend a little extra time doing it twice.

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