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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 18:53:14
February 06 2012 18:50 GMT
#221
This is really handy for sending groups of 20 lings to far away expansions. That was really time consuming before. I am experimenting to see if I can somehow make a new form of marine splitting / bane micro / any type of imba micro.

So far, the results of marine splitting have been ok but not better than normal micro. This is really good for splitting up groups of 10 marines into groups of 3 ish, but it isn't good for splitting up large numbers of marines.

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Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
February 06 2012 18:51 GMT
#222
I am quite sure i have seen scroll sniping used before. I think Morrow is the one who used it quite a bit
:)
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
February 06 2012 18:53 GMT
#223
just another thing that makes sc2 so awesome ^_^
Long live BroodWar!
AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
February 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#224
that thing with the ghost?

NOT BROKEN AT ALL!
Thats "Grand-Master" SMURF to you.....
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
February 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#225
I can't wait for a pro to bust one these scroll moves out!
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 18:56:00
February 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#226
On February 07 2012 03:12 Imbu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 03:10 Pipeline wrote:
3d part program used to change keybinds. I very much doubt that Blizzard will look kindly on this. Banable offense surely. There is a reason why you cant bind the scroll in the game for the set keys.

It's been mentioned a lot of times in the thread that this program does a 1:1 rebinding. For example, if you were to take the razer StarCraft II products, you could do exactly the same thing.

If anything here was banable, then anyone using a custom hotkey setup should also be banned.


how is this supposed to be a 1:1 rebind when you can reach 20k apm with it?
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bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
February 06 2012 18:59 GMT
#227
omg the ghost one is pretty rediculous, going to make them even more effective late game tvz
Klyberess
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden345 Posts
February 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#228
On February 07 2012 03:55 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 03:12 Imbu wrote:
On February 07 2012 03:10 Pipeline wrote:
3d part program used to change keybinds. I very much doubt that Blizzard will look kindly on this. Banable offense surely. There is a reason why you cant bind the scroll in the game for the set keys.

It's been mentioned a lot of times in the thread that this program does a 1:1 rebinding. For example, if you were to take the razer StarCraft II products, you could do exactly the same thing.

If anything here was banable, then anyone using a custom hotkey setup should also be banned.


how is this supposed to be a 1:1 rebind when you can reach 20k apm with it?

because you can scroll way faster than you can click.
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Kloster
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark19 Posts
February 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#229
how is this supposed to be a 1:1 rebind when you can reach 20k apm with it?

Some mouse allows one click on the scroll to be many. Windows setting in fact.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 06 2012 19:00 GMT
#230
On February 07 2012 03:55 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 03:12 Imbu wrote:
On February 07 2012 03:10 Pipeline wrote:
3d part program used to change keybinds. I very much doubt that Blizzard will look kindly on this. Banable offense surely. There is a reason why you cant bind the scroll in the game for the set keys.

It's been mentioned a lot of times in the thread that this program does a 1:1 rebinding. For example, if you were to take the razer StarCraft II products, you could do exactly the same thing.

If anything here was banable, then anyone using a custom hotkey setup should also be banned.


how is this supposed to be a 1:1 rebind when you can reach 20k apm with it?
Scrolling is ridiculously much faster than clicking, even if you're Flash or something like that. It is a 1:1 rebind just you have it easier to reach a higher number with one of them.
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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
February 06 2012 19:05 GMT
#231
As an avid SC2 spectator, i hope to god this is legal and i hope to god i get to see this in the GSL tonight
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
February 06 2012 19:06 GMT
#232
I believe it was coLgoswser who told me about rebinding scroll to click several months ago. He said its also d useful to split of zerglings from the main group when getting dropped etc. Dont know if he still uses it nor if he uses it in tournaments.
this game is a fucking jokie
kcdc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2311 Posts
February 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#233
This is going to make ghosts much better against zealots. Some players (at least Thorzain) were already favoring spending their APM on sniping instead of kiting against chargelots. With this trick, they'll be able to get their snipes off quickly enough to snipe AND kite effectively. It's going to be broken.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
February 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#234
On February 07 2012 04:06 disco wrote:
I believe it was coLgoswser who told me about rebinding scroll to click several months ago. He said its also d useful to split of zerglings from the main group when getting dropped etc. Dont know if he still uses it nor if he uses it in tournaments.


That sounds like a good use. Hover over the first portrait when you have a ton of units selected and give the wheel a scroll and it should deselect a bunch of them while still leaving you with the rest selected.
Logo
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
February 06 2012 19:12 GMT
#235
On February 07 2012 04:09 kcdc wrote:
This is going to make ghosts much better against zealots. Some players (at least Thorzain) were already favoring spending their APM on sniping instead of kiting against chargelots. With this trick, they'll be able to get their snipes off quickly enough to snipe AND kite effectively. It's going to be broken.



Whoa I didn't even think of it that way ><
Wat
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#236
On February 07 2012 04:09 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 04:06 disco wrote:
I believe it was coLgoswser who told me about rebinding scroll to click several months ago. He said its also d useful to split of zerglings from the main group when getting dropped etc. Dont know if he still uses it nor if he uses it in tournaments.


That sounds like a good use. Hover over the first portrait when you have a ton of units selected and give the wheel a scroll and it should deselect a bunch of them while still leaving you with the rest selected.

Not really that useful because you can just unbox a bunch of them from your group just as easily though.
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
February 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#237
On February 06 2012 14:06 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 14:01 zylog wrote:
Yeah I experimented with this type of setting as well. For a bit more description if you set one of your mouse buttons to spam the left click repeatedly (similar to how holding down a keyboard button works) stuff like infested terran spam can be done more quickly. Probably most useful when you have some infestors deep in enemy territory that you want to launch a counter attack in the midst of another battle.

For terran it allows ghosts to instagib T3 zerg units

I am pretty sure command macros like that are illeagal in sc2.

They're against the Blizzard terms of use. All I know is that I'm definitely going to try this out with Ghosts.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 06 2012 19:22 GMT
#238
On February 07 2012 03:28 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 03:19 Doodsmack wrote:
On February 07 2012 03:03 DeltruS wrote:
Hey guys. Here's a quick guide on how to make this mouse keybinding only take effect in SC2, windowed or fullscreen.

+ Show Spoiler [First, make a new window profile.] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Second, set the process name to SC2.exe] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Thirdly, simply set the up and down mo…] +
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I suggest anyone do does this micro first practice it with just the left mouse button so they get an idea of when it is appropriate to use shift and when to just hold the hotkey.



You really are doing the community a disservice by posting a guide like this. If this exploit can't be nerfed and isn't a bannable offense, it's really up to the honor of each individual player to refrain from using it given that it's undeniably imbalanced. If you use this trick to snipe or spawn IT then you are giving yourself an unfair advantage that wasn't intended by the game designers. You should be more concerned with improving as a player and playing fair games than getting wins through unfair methods.

Once something is out there you can't put it back in the box. Do you think we could just silence something like this to death and prevent people from knowing about it? (it will be our little secret *nods*) By publicizing it you equalize the playing field and raise awareness so that everyone can decide for themselves whether to use it.

Also, who are you to decide when something is 'undeniably imbalanced'? There are lots of tricks out there, why should this one not be allowed to use? If it is somehow broken then tournaments will simply ban it, no need to root it out beforehand.



It's not a matter of keeping a secret, it's a matter of not making it easier for everyone to do. Since it does in fact give the user an unfair advantage, it's wrong to distribute an easy method to the masses because you are increasing the number of people giving themselves an unfair advantage. Better for less people to know how to do it because then you have less people doing it.

The real point here is that the only people who will use this are those who are desperate to get wins on the ladder at all costs. Plain and simple you're modifying your race in a way that circumvents the intended game balance. And no I'm not unilaterally deciding what's imbalanced, I'm simply observing a simple fact. Anyone with a brain can look at those videos and recognize that it's imbalanced.
Nallen
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 19:41:43
February 06 2012 19:23 GMT
#239
Because I'm a bit of a dick at times I have done this in FPS games. Makes your pistol pretty good - especially when you have a mouse with a scroll step release (no idea what they're really called) so the mouse wheel just spins freely like the G500.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
February 06 2012 19:24 GMT
#240
On February 07 2012 04:09 kcdc wrote:
This is going to make ghosts much better against zealots. Some players (at least Thorzain) were already favoring spending their APM on sniping instead of kiting against chargelots. With this trick, they'll be able to get their snipes off quickly enough to snipe AND kite effectively. It's going to be broken.


Well, ghosts are too slow to kite, and regular mouse clicks are already quick enough to snipe templar. I don't think this will affect PvT much. It's much more devastating to Zerg.
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