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Tyelander
Profile Joined June 2012
South Africa11 Posts
September 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#101
Thanks for this man! I wanted to start playing Terran :D
Totally CBA
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 19:11:03
September 30 2012 19:10 GMT
#102
Wow... This is amazing!
I might just make one for Zerg, do you mind if I use your format?
Feverus
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
September 30 2012 21:45 GMT
#103
When you say macro cycle, do you refer to queueing up all the SCVs, marines, tanks, medivacs, everything? What hotkeys can you run through in under a second?
Willzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom774 Posts
September 30 2012 22:19 GMT
#104
A macro cycle isn't something you do for a second every so often, it is a constant thing. Your production isn't going to line up neatly, you need to be constantly cycling through production the whole time.
gfever
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States180 Posts
October 01 2012 12:11 GMT
#105
On October 01 2012 06:45 Feverus wrote:
When you say macro cycle, do you refer to queueing up all the SCVs, marines, tanks, medivacs, everything? What hotkeys can you run through in under a second?


in macro cycle i meant queueing all my production, from SCVs/Mules, to rax, to factory, to starport. In that sequence.
Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/gamfvr, My Terran Guide: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=297764
Razac
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands101 Posts
October 01 2012 13:10 GMT
#106
Control groups, Either hidden or unclickeable.


Why is this? If i hide my control groups i can ajust anymore? What if i make a mistake?

www.twitch.tv/razac_
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
October 01 2012 22:05 GMT
#107
On October 01 2012 21:11 gfever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 06:45 Feverus wrote:
When you say macro cycle, do you refer to queueing up all the SCVs, marines, tanks, medivacs, everything? What hotkeys can you run through in under a second?


in macro cycle i meant queueing all my production, from SCVs/Mules, to rax, to factory, to starport. In that sequence.

Can I use your format for the guide?
gfever
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States180 Posts
October 01 2012 23:59 GMT
#108
On October 02 2012 07:05 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 21:11 gfever wrote:
On October 01 2012 06:45 Feverus wrote:
When you say macro cycle, do you refer to queueing up all the SCVs, marines, tanks, medivacs, everything? What hotkeys can you run through in under a second?


in macro cycle i meant queueing all my production, from SCVs/Mules, to rax, to factory, to starport. In that sequence.

Can I use your format for the guide?


yea
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SCRedditor
Profile Joined October 2012
United States57 Posts
October 02 2012 00:04 GMT
#109
Lots of good information, but the "TvZ Reactor Hellion Expand Banshee Mech Opening" build order doesn't quite work. The build itself is in an odd format, I'm assuming the list is in chronological order. Anyways, (in my attempts) if you build the CC, 2nd gas, 3rd depot, starport, before starting hellions (as directed in the build order) it is hard to have enough money for the initial set of hellions and near impossible to get the 2nd set as soon as the first one finishes. Even in your example replays you didn't follow the build exactly. Could someone explain if I'm doing it wrong or what? And maybe post a replay of executing it perfectly (against AI will be fine).
Thanks to those that support me. For those that don't like me, please PM me. I always wish to kiss ass.
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 16:58:18
October 02 2012 18:52 GMT
#110
I`m curious if you recommend watching games you have won or if you think it is a waste of time, Thanks.
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
October 02 2012 22:23 GMT
#111
On October 03 2012 03:52 rfoster wrote:
I`m curious if you recommend watching games you won or if you think it is a waste of time, Thanks.

I know you're asking him, but I think it depends on whether or not you felt the game was hard for you to win or not. If it was a clean cut simple win you probably don't want to watch it if you're looking for learning. However, if you're going on a loss streak I would recommend watching yourself win a couple times to cheer yourself up! You will probably find yourself playing much better. If it was not a decisive win you should watch it to find out what opportunities you had to make it an easier win.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 05 2012 16:14 GMT
#112
This guide is sick. I am platinum level and never used camera keys...thanks to this guide I started using them, also I hotkey upgrades etc. The results are stunning, my apm was always about 90 and now it is 120-130 o.o I think that tapping all those keys gives you the habit of doing so. I suppose I'm in the middle of improving, because even if my mechanics are becoming better, I lose more than I used to with my old habits. Probably because I put a lot of attention on these new things...once they'll become rooted in my mind I'll be a better player
Dating thread on TL LUL
absone
Profile Joined March 2012
Belgium11 Posts
October 06 2012 15:45 GMT
#113
thx so much man, some tips are really awesome actually! we could all grow up with kind of guides like this!
rikter
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
October 06 2012 19:35 GMT
#114
I disagree about turning the sound off. Sound on is how I work on perfecting my macro cycle, with no queuing (ideally, exception: if im about to engage). Those audio alerts are like pavlovs bell. I train myself so that everytime I hear the alert my response is to start whatever unit just completed. Also, mules collapsing, that sort of thing. Sometimes my eyes can be distracted/doing something else, but my ears are always there.

Ive found that for me, and pro terrans ive watched, they have custom keys designed to let them play without moving their keyboard hand. Wrist stays in place, only movement in fingers. No keys used past g/h.

Lot of other good stuff in there, these were just two things that jumped out at me as different from my experience.
No one wants a box of shit, even if it is for Christmas.
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 15:43:38
October 07 2012 15:41 GMT
#115
On October 02 2012 09:04 SCRedditor wrote:
Lots of good information, but the "TvZ Reactor Hellion Expand Banshee Mech Opening" build order doesn't quite work. The build itself is in an odd format, I'm assuming the list is in chronological order. Anyways, (in my attempts) if you build the CC, 2nd gas, 3rd depot, starport, before starting hellions (as directed in the build order) it is hard to have enough money for the initial set of hellions and near impossible to get the 2nd set as soon as the first one finishes. Even in your example replays you didn't follow the build exactly. Could someone explain if I'm doing it wrong or what? And maybe post a replay of executing it perfectly (against AI will be fine).



http://drop.sc/223018

This is a game between him and I where he uses this opening. (csl teammates)
I was experimenting in this game and my opening sort of blind countered his, so notice it's effectiveness while being blind countered. Pretty good.


( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
October 07 2012 16:22 GMT
#116
On October 02 2012 09:04 SCRedditor wrote:
Lots of good information, but the "TvZ Reactor Hellion Expand Banshee Mech Opening" build order doesn't quite work. The build itself is in an odd format, I'm assuming the list is in chronological order. Anyways, (in my attempts) if you build the CC, 2nd gas, 3rd depot, starport, before starting hellions (as directed in the build order) it is hard to have enough money for the initial set of hellions and near impossible to get the 2nd set as soon as the first one finishes. Even in your example replays you didn't follow the build exactly. Could someone explain if I'm doing it wrong or what? And maybe post a replay of executing it perfectly (against AI will be fine).


The guide is too old for copying a build order i think.
oo
Heavenfallz
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia73 Posts
October 15 2012 13:32 GMT
#117
Great guide! Now i know how to play with mech. Always used mech as an offensive strategy in the past which never worked too well but your guide helped clear a lot of doubts!
"Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories" - Sun Tzu
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 28 2012 15:41 GMT
#118
This seems amazing! Especially macro tips seem good, as quite often it is just "l2p" or "l2macro" with no further elaboration on that.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
zak_attack
Profile Joined November 2012
Wales6 Posts
December 03 2012 09:53 GMT
#119
wow great guide thanks alot peeps
'I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 23:25:53
December 08 2012 23:24 GMT
#120
Whoa! Just noticed you uploaded a new vid, the one on TvT Mech indepth.

Awesome! Thanks so much!

Seriously how come such a good guide + good videos gets so little attention/views...? ;(

Let's get more exposure to this stuff, it wouldn't make sense to put so much time + effort (1.5 hour vids man!) if barely anyone (relative to other vids like Filter) watches them.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
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