EPTThe crucial elements here are +1 armor, GS, and immortals, right? Can always smash thru some bunkers and back off to wait for a few warpins if that's what makes you happy but with people saying they get stim and a ghost around 9:00, seems crucial to hit hard right before that happens.
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Keilah
731 Posts
The crucial elements here are +1 armor, GS, and immortals, right? Can always smash thru some bunkers and back off to wait for a few warpins if that's what makes you happy but with people saying they get stim and a ghost around 9:00, seems crucial to hit hard right before that happens. | ||
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wolnewitz
United States6 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6226 Posts
But, it's ridiculously scoutable (forge, delayed gas with no expo and no zealots) and it's got an obvious hardcounter which is pretty easy to tech to (EMP). Has OP actually commented on fighting ghosts with this? | ||
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SPACETIME
Canada48 Posts
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Aelonius
Netherlands432 Posts
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
I'm only a low NA master though so prolly just basic mistakes in my games letting me get away. Like to try it though - msg me teamamerica.915 if anyone wants a game. | ||
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paintfive
785 Posts
On September 16 2011 17:57 Aelonius wrote: I am not a protoss but is it me if I say that a warp prism addition could be very very nasty? Sure, it costs some but while your friendly Terran is dealing with the push you can warp in units in the back and faceroll his economy. Another thing could be, depending per map, to drop the immortals inbase ? just get an obs and a pylon on low ground | ||
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poorcloud
Singapore2748 Posts
On September 16 2011 18:40 teamamerica wrote: Hmm I normally do a 1rax expo and add up to 4 rax, get one gas, go up to 5rax and one techlab (for stim) and pump rines and one rauder. Works well vs all the people doing twilight chargelot openings for me. I'd really like to try that vs this build - I think I'd be ok because the only things I spend my gas on are stim and +1 weapons. It's delayed but with so many minerals (only one gas) I have a ton of rines and even though marines only do the 2dmg, immortals are just terrible vs them. Might be diff with 6range immo (patch) and good FF cutting me up but from what I see, most of the sentries are for GS. What I fear the most in my opening is people who kite me with stalkers for days (no medivacs so only one stim - if they kite me from my base it gets tedious) and collusi (but if I scout that I'll add more gas and get vikes). I'm only a low NA master though so prolly just basic mistakes in my games letting me get away. Like to try it though - msg me teamamerica.915 if anyone wants a game. I tried it except i went for the 5 rax version. Lost horribly, he just had too many units when he hit. | ||
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wuddersup
United States228 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 11 2011 19:55 Roynalf wrote: misread title as Hipsters PvT Immortal style OMG me too!!! I was expecting a guide on how to go against the norm of PvT, with tips on tight jeans and rants on how bad mainstream builds are nowadays  | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
I really like Immortals though mid-late game. The problem though is EMP, and the fact that Colossi are 11x more valuable in this MU :o | ||
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Catchafire2000
United States227 Posts
On September 16 2011 09:27 Keilah wrote: How has nobody mentioned that if you drop the robo right after the stalker you can hit much sooner? On my second attempt I was attacking the terran units at 8:50 with +1 armor, 4 immortals, 4 sentries, 2 zealots, 1 stalker, with 2 extra gates morphing into warpgate mode, and 2 more gates a few seconds behind. The crucial elements here are +1 armor, GS, and immortals, right? Can always smash thru some bunkers and back off to wait for a few warpins if that's what makes you happy but with people saying they get stim and a ghost around 9:00, seems crucial to hit hard right before that happens. Can u supply a replay please? I def. feel that this build needs to be refined. | ||
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acidsurfer
Poland1 Post
i've been lurking this site for quite a time, but this thread push me to create account and join active users ;-) first of all, TY for this BO. with this my winratio vs T is ROCKETJUMPING TO THE SPACE =) i prefer to hit T about 10.00-10.30 with ~4-6 zets, 4 immos, (initial stalker if he wasn't sniped out) and 7-8 sentries plus additional warp ins near T bases. and, i haven't lost a single game vs T since i've started play this BO, regardless if T went for marine-scv all in, 2 rax push into fe, 1rax FE or even 1base ghost push... ...except infamous 1-1-1. i've read in another topic on TL that vs. 1-1-1 toss should go gate-robo-fe. i've tried incorporate fe to this BO, right about time second sentry and robo is on the way (it's time when my stalker hits T wall and i can scout, what units does he have). tested few times, and with FE puted down about 5min mark in 10. min i should've 4-5 zealots more, and income +250 mins over 1base play, so it should be better. but, if T isn't doing that, and prepares instead some other nasty push (becasue poking stalker that can see only few marines isn't reliable in 100% scouter), then my expo is kinda non-profitable (if i were sitting in 1base, that "other nasty push" should kiss my front door and that's it). so, what do you recommend to play, if i scout or assume that's T is going 1-1-1? tl;dr - love this BO; what i should play or tranzit if i scout 1-1-1? also, plat/dia toss-noob here ^^ | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
funny thing was the diamond blocked me right after in a fit of nerdrage ^^. Ender, I'm looking at you. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
-I'm in Gold - I probably hit about 15 minutes late - I probably did the build order the opposite way round - Terran's in Gold don't know what fast expanding is, let alone another build vs P that isn't a 3 rax I'll try again :D And to the guy above me yeah tanks + marines are pretty good vs this.. with bunkers ofc in front of tanks. Once the range is buffed it shouldn't be a problem though.. maybe | ||
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xdividebyzerox
34 Posts
edit: I just got promoted to Diamond with this :D thanks alot for the awesome build | ||
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Jomer
United States32 Posts
On September 16 2011 03:57 TiTanIum_ wrote: Hister is a place in the lower Danube. "But what about the Hitler prophecy? Simply put, it is vague, and when read we find it does not refer to Hitler at all. Nostradamus talks about conflict, division, strife and war. He also specifically mentions the area in and around Germany. But of course this has been the site of countless battles and conflicts throughout history. Nostradamus said, "Most of the army will be against the lower Danube [Hister sera]. The great one shall be dragged in an iron cage when the child brother [de Germain] will observe nothing." This is where Hitler is supposed to have been named by name. But it says "Hister sera" and not "Hitler." Besides that, "Hister sera" does not refer to a person at all, but to a place. It is amazing that people get all worked up over things like this, and never check them out to see if there is really any validity to them." http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-what-nostradamus-said-about-adolf-hister-...thats-right-hister.htm Don´t mind the bible stuff in the linked site. Your interpretation of the text seems reasonable, but I can certainly empathize with the person you're responding to. The basis for my own notice of the name's significance stems from a fairly well-known 1981 documentary narrated by Orson Welles, "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow". Given that people are less likely to try to refer to a place in the lower Danube than history's worst villain, I disagree not with the interpretation of the quatrains you cite, but of the intent of the user. As for the build itself, it's refreshing to see a build that punishes an abusive build in the metagame - albeit blindly. That it is stomped by builds other than the one it punishes *should* be expected. | ||
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hysterial
United States2044 Posts
And now its making Major rage on stream rofl. | ||
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
On September 17 2011 08:08 hysterial wrote: Wow I just saw this build RAPE sixjaxMajor. went through like 5 bunkers... And now its making Major rage on stream rofl. Then the next game he played it and made 2 ghosts and won while bming with offensive mules | ||
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
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