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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
August 28 2012 23:50 GMT
#541
You should be pressing Ctrl+Shift with your Thumb! That is probably why it has been difficult for you. It sounds weird, but it is very fast and ergonomic :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
phantastron
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada21 Posts
August 29 2012 04:16 GMT
#542
On August 28 2012 19:49 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Guys, if you are concerned about ergonomic, efficiency, or speed, TheCore is the way to go. It is so much better than the current version of DarkGrid.

There are 2 reasons to learn DarkGrid over TheCore:
1) You don't want to have to work as hard to adjust. TheCore is completely alien, at least this is a little bit more familiar? Fair enough. I personally think if you're going to relearn all your positioning anyway, might as well go the extra mile and get the HEAPS of benefits TheCore offers. You're not lazy, switching to DarkGrid takes a lot of work too, you're probably just afraid. Allow me to reassure you with sweet lulibies detailing TheCore's excellence....

2) You play on a laptop, you keyboard doesn't permit the core due to odd key placings, or your room is too small for you to slide the keyboard far enough to the left.

I'm serious. That's it.

TheCore: Fast, More Ergonomic, More Efficient, Not that scary.

foxy, is charmeleon better than darkgrid considering those 2 reasons?
안녕하세요
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 05:07:28
August 29 2012 05:06 GMT
#543
Not the version I evaluated when JaK and I first started working together. But he may have updated it, layered cameras being the most key part. If so, then it's a possibility.

I think the home keys on Chameleon are also quite uncomfortable, no matter the version. You may not though, I have a fat hand.

That said, both are light years better than standard or grid. ^_^

@ Zulu23: Make sure to give info on that sweet map in TheCore thread.
Syntaxs
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany57 Posts
August 29 2012 12:41 GMT
#544
I got used to Darkgrid now and I am absolutely fine with it! TheCore just annoyed mit having my left hand on the right side, which already is the wrong mindset and a reason for failure. (Thats why I went for DarkGrid)
What did I get in bonus to my old setup? (Standard):
7 more CG'S
8 Cams
More Speed
Faster bulding of stuff
This already shows how big the advantage of custom layouts are. I am not arguing about TheCore being worse, as it is not.
But on the level I play (diamon/masters) those few seconds I win with TheCore won't matter anyway.
I am just glad someone inveted hotkey layouts, be it you Foxy or you Jaka.
THANKS
I hope you guys go on doing such a nice job and Foxy you are upgrading DarkGrid with HotS!
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ragnacraft_edz
Profile Joined December 2004
Philippines4 Posts
August 30 2012 02:52 GMT
#545
hey guys i need help.. my problem is i cant play sc2 without darkgrid, im using it for a month now and i cant play without it. i need an update for hots im playing custom hots and it sucks with darkgrid and i cant use standard keys on it because i customize my keyboard for darkgrid layout to master it fast i popped out almost any keys from my keyboard and it seems that i lose those keys. now i need to play custom hots for advance preparation for hots beta and soon for commercial launch.

i really need help i dont have plans to test core or any different layout since for me darkgrid is the best and also it helps me refrain from my carpal syndrome.

please update darkgrid maybe not now but soon when hots beta come out.
Syntaxs
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 09:51:26
August 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#546
I guess it gets the update when HotS is released, that at least would make more sense because then he/she has more time making it as efficient as possible and time for testing. In addition not everyone will be able to play the Beta.
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FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
August 30 2012 10:13 GMT
#547
I have no control over what the hotkeys are in the HOTS custom. Unlike with standard SC2 games, the hotkeys are controlled by the custom game itself.

There will be an HOTS update for darkgrid.
Syntaxs
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany57 Posts
August 30 2012 14:05 GMT
#548
Aww yhea baby <3 That's what I've been hoping for:D
And please be fast with it, can't play after HotS gets released until Darkgrid is done.:/
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ragnacraft_edz
Profile Joined December 2004
Philippines4 Posts
August 30 2012 16:10 GMT
#549
On August 30 2012 19:13 FoxyMayhem wrote:

There will be an HOTS update for darkgrid.
.

Hooray!!! im so happy.. i think i can sleep well now.. hahahaha

On August 30 2012 23:05 Syntaxs wrote:

can't play after HotS gets released until Darkgrid is done.:/


thats the worst nightmare i always get until now, but finally mayhem made a statement for it. hehe so.. lets be prepared for hots.. fighting!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2012 01:00 GMT
#550
On August 30 2012 23:05 Syntaxs wrote:
Aww yhea baby <3 That's what I've been hoping for:D
And please be fast with it, can't play after HotS gets released until Darkgrid is done.:/


I don't understand...?
Just use the current one, it'll work just fine.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
seriouslywtf
Profile Joined August 2012
8 Posts
August 31 2012 18:33 GMT
#551
Ummm.... foxy

will you be able to update this with the knowledge and information you got from make and developing the core? im a darkgrid user myself and i would like it if it was the best it could be. e.g. (new hotkey positions, unit/ability keys etc...)

and also a suggestion, for zerg mouseless, i don't like how 3 is queen. the 3 can be changed to be more efficient in my opinion. for example, how about caps lock? that's what i prefer.


zerg is ugly, protoss is uglier, terran is ugliest?
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
September 01 2012 01:09 GMT
#552
I've considered it. It depends how much time I have when HOTS is released.
enanoretozon
Profile Joined March 2012
Panama57 Posts
September 03 2012 09:16 GMT
#553
FoxyMayhem, is there any place where I can download a DG with the modifications Thatsoraven from the video mentioned? I'm interested in a mouseless terran layout with the attack on W instead of Q. I tried modifying the stock DG ingame but ran into some sort of conflict with the SCV key that when I tried to correct, created even more errors.
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
September 04 2012 05:29 GMT
#554
I'm sorry, I lost my contact info for him.
enanoretozon
Profile Joined March 2012
Panama57 Posts
September 04 2012 05:58 GMT
#555
I see, thanks anyway.
Jo3M3tal
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
September 07 2012 22:38 GMT
#556
HotS fix!
Modified Darkgrid 1.3c to work with HotS. Smallest number of modifications possible. Only new units and new abilities were altered.

Download me!

Current issue that needs to be resolved is that viper is "Y". Works but not ideal. Darkgrid only allows for 10 ability hotkeys in the grid, there are now 11 different units that can be made from a larva so I had to go off the grid. Everything else is working perfectly fine.
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
September 08 2012 01:43 GMT
#557
Thank you Jo3M3tal, post updated.
j.k.l
Profile Joined September 2012
112 Posts
September 11 2012 01:27 GMT
#558
darkgrid is cleaner and fresher for me. I prefer this one and i hate myself for doing so.
~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jo3M3tal
Profile Joined February 2011
United States7 Posts
September 11 2012 21:58 GMT
#559
Darkgrid for HotS Update

Download is from same place.

Fixes
  • Fixed some burrow/unburrow issues.
  • Fixed ping problems.
  • Base 2 cam workaround.

Known issues (using map editor vs ai beta trick)

  • Swarm host burrow/unburrow uses default hotkeys (no place to set them?).
  • Create location 2 using ctrl-alt-w (ctrl-shift-w still works)


If anyone knows how to deal with the swarm host issues, let me know (or upload it fixed!). I think it is just due to a beta bug using the map editor. I would like a confirmation with a real beta.

Same goes for the base location two, should only be broken in the editor. If anyone knows how to make the editor play nice with the hotkeys as well, that would be appreciated. I know that ctrl-alt-w toggles the debug module, but I saw no hotkey setting for it and it doesn't pop up with a conflict. Starcraft II editor didn't have it in the "configure controls" there either but maybe that is the wrong place.

FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
September 12 2012 00:50 GMT
#560
Have you tried rebinding the default burrows?
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