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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 03:27:21
May 22 2012 03:26 GMT
#501
On May 22 2012 05:35 kORALIE wrote:
Regarding hand placement on desk that's pretty much it. I red your blog and saw u guys are doing something with tilted keyboard placement for this new layout.

It's awesome. My english is so bad so I cant really "analyze" how great that hand placement actually is when your keyboard is slightly tilted. All I can say its way more ergonomic than normal, and you guys should absolutely do it that way.



I wish I could speak your language so I could talk to you in it, but I only know English I will work on more languages! :D

Thank you for your input, it is super helpful :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Gollomor
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria51 Posts
May 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#502
OMG its so pretty awesome but so hard to learn

pls pls pls make an EU version on an EU - Keyboard cause i cant use it on the EU without change every second hotkey
We are the Blades of Aiur
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 22 2012 19:45 GMT
#503
On May 23 2012 01:14 Gollomor wrote:
OMG its so pretty awesome but so hard to learn

pls pls pls make an EU version on an EU - Keyboard cause i cant use it on the EU without change every second hotkey



That's a really good point. Hopefully we'll have time to get to that after all the US versions are done. Definitely going to keep this in mind man. Thanks :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Gollomor
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria51 Posts
May 22 2012 21:21 GMT
#504
no problem I test it a lot on the EU server but at the and some hotkeys was so far away that i cant play good like this i am so excited to see the EU version of this pretty awesome keyboard hotkeys i was thinking a lot about my own hotkeys and how i can put the ramp hotkey from F1 near to my finger and this hotkey layout is just awesome on this way.

Keep on this way.
It is very helpfull for me and for the community .

Thx
Gollomor
We are the Blades of Aiur
IlK
Profile Joined May 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 01:06:42
May 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#505
Did i miss something thats different for this layout between iso and ansi respectvely qwerty and qwertz or is it only the z/y?
Changing y and z was fast, simply open the file, search for "=z" and at every hit u change the Z to a Y (upper case!).

Here u can download it: Darkgrid_qwertz
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
May 23 2012 04:24 GMT
#506
On May 23 2012 08:22 IlK wrote:
Did i miss something thats different for this layout between iso and ansi respectvely qwerty and qwertz or is it only the z/y?
Changing y and z was fast, simply open the file, search for "=z" and at every hit u change the Z to a Y (upper case!).

Here u can download it: Darkgrid_qwertz


You're so nice IIK, thanks :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Gollomor
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria51 Posts
May 23 2012 16:28 GMT
#507
This is your american keyboard: http://www.tippscout.de/images/keyb-us-norm-628.png
and this is our EU: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png/510px-German-Keyboard-Layout-T2-Version1-large.png

I think its nothink different but if I want to change the hotkey from Z to Y he delete every other hotkey :-S and i have 20-30 unbound hotkeys no idea why. I think its a problem because us-server and eu-server thx a lot i test it soon
We are the Blades of Aiur
IlK
Profile Joined May 2012
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 19:17:34
May 23 2012 19:13 GMT
#508
The zirkumflex is a difference, i tried around a bit today and well...if i enter "backslash" for it its working fine.
So after adjusting that for center on selection (nice for the darkgrid injection method).

I didnt change keys ingame, i simply opened the layoutfile and changed every "=z" with "=y", thats 15seconds work on any reasonable text editor

For azerty players its gonna be a lot more work cuz e.g. w and z are both used so u have to delete all =w, give all =z->=w and then search for =_ and subsittute those with =z.
Thats something a machine does better then a human, should be not that hard to code(thank god the keys are on the end of the line, thats easy to check:D if last char==x make last char w, that for any key and its done) but since after the new layout there wont be new and better layouts the use for that is limited, and i think frenchies could use a real keyboard instead of their strange one:D
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
May 23 2012 21:46 GMT
#509
-Alright Darkgrid players, we need your replays! Send them to me with your league (upload to a replay site, or something like google drive or microsoft skydrive). We'll be scanning them for statistics and comparing them to pros to help us design the new layouts. And we need a lot of them.
How should I send my replays? Should I just edit this post with some replay links, or PM them to you?
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
May 24 2012 05:21 GMT
#510
PM please ^_^
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
May 24 2012 13:23 GMT
#511
On May 21 2012 08:40 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Did he provide any data supporting that claim? I find it doubtful because, as far as I understand, players who use the fingertip grip do not have circulation issued, and yet they never move their arms. On the other hand, I might be completely off base.

The fingertip grip rests your hand on the protruding bone, and as such doesn't block circulation at all. I generally can't easy use the same bone on my left hand on my keyboard, which is why having a still wrist blocking circulation makes sense. Of course stretching your hands and arms after games is important, regardless of position, but particularly if you're gaming for long periods of time I imagine it could be quite important, keeping your left hand circulating. I'll have to look into it more.
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Hachrt
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States5 Posts
May 25 2012 23:37 GMT
#512
On May 24 2012 22:23 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 08:40 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Did he provide any data supporting that claim? I find it doubtful because, as far as I understand, players who use the fingertip grip do not have circulation issued, and yet they never move their arms. On the other hand, I might be completely off base.

The fingertip grip rests your hand on the protruding bone, and as such doesn't block circulation at all. I generally can't easy use the same bone on my left hand on my keyboard, which is why having a still wrist blocking circulation makes sense. Of course stretching your hands and arms after games is important, regardless of position, but particularly if you're gaming for long periods of time I imagine it could be quite important, keeping your left hand circulating. I'll have to look into it more.

This is also how I hold my mouse, and I can confirm this. Even when I'm using this mouse pad, which has a gel wrist rest, my protruding bone is where I rest my wrist.
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 19:44:24
May 31 2012 19:44 GMT
#513
Alright, we need votes for the new name. Everyone, please head here and vote!
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=339382
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 02 2012 19:00 GMT
#514
We've decided on theCore Thanks for everyone who helped out. The first batch of layouts should be released today :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
ksert
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany7 Posts
June 02 2012 19:19 GMT
#515
wow, this is so nice to hear guys!
i used the "old" darkgrid layout, and i am so excited about the new layout you guys make. thank you for all the work and time you spend on creating such a layout for the community. i hope there also comes a layout for german keyboards.

btw first post. Hello forum!!

greetings from germany
FoxyMayhem
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 22:11:55
June 02 2012 19:53 GMT
#516
Hey ksert! Thanks for the lovely post!

TheCore, the new layout developed in conjunction with JaKaTaK (creator of another good layout), is now released in beta! This layout goes far beyond anything I've ever seen in layouts, and improves on DarkGrid in every way.

It may see changes as this is our first pulic beta. If you're okay with that, and want to take your control to the next level and reduce wrist strain, dive in!
baselmarkit
Profile Joined July 2012
14 Posts
July 24 2012 16:29 GMT
#517
i really used this a lot and helped me to improve. thank you!
darkachu
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
August 02 2012 20:02 GMT
#518
i hope you continue updating this, as well as for HOTS. Thecore or whatever the name is just falls short compared to this layout imo.
Fairchild
Profile Joined February 2011
133 Posts
August 02 2012 20:33 GMT
#519
On August 03 2012 05:02 darkachu wrote:
i hope you continue updating this, as well as for HOTS. Thecore or whatever the name is just falls short compared to this layout imo.


agreed, the core is entirely too cramped and over-hyped.

Darkgrid has made me a better player and would love to see it continue evolving.
esToDo
Profile Joined July 2012
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 23:05:05
August 02 2012 23:03 GMT
#520
i'd say if you would rather stick to darkgrid, you don't really need foxy to keep updating it. the fundamentals are there, it won't be hard to continue making changes to darkgrid to make it the most comfortable for you.
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