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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 19 2011 16:01 GMT
#81
On July 18 2011 08:03 kzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 07:56 TrickyGilligan wrote:So, you'd argue that a player at the end of a 10 game losing streak has just as much chance to win their 11th game as a player coming off of a 10 game winning streak?


If they're in control of their emotions, yes. And that doesn't mean they're happy, it means they're fully aware that the only way previous games can affect their next game is if they allow it to.


It's just a shame that nobody is fully 'in control of their emotions', then. It is fallacious to think that we can control our own auto-response chemicals just by thinking about them. There are people who can stop those emotions from showing too much to the world, but if you know how you can read most people's emotional state like a book.

MOST people will be affected by a 10game losing streak and will not play average or above in the next game.
leBIGcrab
Profile Joined February 2011
France313 Posts
July 19 2011 16:06 GMT
#82
On July 20 2011 00:51 bylex wrote:
I've been playing online games for some time now, and Starcraft is defenitely the most rage-pron game I've played! Sometimes it REALLY, but REALLY gets to me. I get to the point I dont recognize myself after losing some matches... Pretty scary heh.

Só I agree and backup everything posted by Tang!

Cheers!


You should try Street Fighter IV online or the new sequel to know what's a real rage-pron game.

Anyways, i agree with OP on positive mindset winning you games. Mixed with coffee and good physical shape, it does miracle, it really clears your mind.
djdoodoo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom192 Posts
July 19 2011 16:21 GMT
#83
The key to starcraft 2 is actually lots of practise.
madafromSF
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5 Posts
July 19 2011 16:35 GMT
#84
I really like the "be polite" and "be healthy" parts. I think I will start gging with a nice phrase about their play from now on, at least to show that I understand that they got the best of me and not any other reason that I lost.

And obviously no doritos.
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Squigly
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom629 Posts
July 19 2011 16:53 GMT
#85
Can this pleeeeease be moved. Its clogging up the strategy forum with a useless thread.
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
July 19 2011 16:55 GMT
#86
You can eat doritos, just do so in moderation haha a big bag in one sitting may not be ideal.

Obviously practice is very important, as is dedication. I suppose my point is that if you can dedicate yourself to practicing frequently in the right mindset, overall you'll find more joy in the experience and be more willing to continue practicing and learning
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Confidence is an important tool, but a lot of people take it to the point of being arrogant. That's why I say getting angry when you lose a game is the wrong reaction because you'll be tempted to overlook some flaws in your play. Perfect the style you know, but don't reject other people's styles. You should know your edge but also be aware that you may not always be right - remember that arrogance can stunt learning and that creative flare. I think people need to see that there are a lot of different ways to approach situations and not necessarily one correct answer to anything in SC2.
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Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1186 Posts
July 19 2011 16:56 GMT
#87
On July 20 2011 01:06 leBIGcrab wrote:
Mixed with coffee...

You can drink coffee while playing starcraft?

I love coffee and many days I drink more coffee than water but when I combine starcraft and caffeine my pulse skyrockets somewhat frighteningly.

Same is true for losing, might be a further reason to incorporate the OP's suggestions . Guess I'll try it (again), sometimes a cool attitude when losing would be really beneficial.
Mutation complete.
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
July 19 2011 17:04 GMT
#88
On July 18 2011 05:47 Aletheia27 wrote:
I don't understand why this is in strategy....


I don't understand why you bother replying....

TehN00blet
Profile Joined July 2011
United States7 Posts
July 20 2011 02:19 GMT
#89
This has really helped me out. I think mindset is almost as important as skill.
Pinnapple
Profile Joined July 2011
United States8 Posts
July 20 2011 21:03 GMT
#90
I Love this a lot... I feel like this is the important stuff right here. If you have a good mindset and are willing you can even get better. Keep up the good thoughts :DD
danzhang
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada184 Posts
July 21 2011 04:28 GMT
#91
This is incredibly useful! keep it up!
IMMVP
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 21 2011 04:51 GMT
#92
this guide is basically how to be a nice person on battlenet. I think a lot of it probably won't help very much, but it has two very good points.

Confidence and anger managment are both essential to playing well, though I'm skeptical about the part about needing to be good mannered, combatex and deezer both seem to manage alright in GM. But you will notice that these players despite their other not so great qualities(that I won't mention here) they always think they will win no matter what and they always persevere asking for a rematch after a loss.
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
July 21 2011 04:54 GMT
#93
Nah, look at Idra

You need a competetive mind set in order to get good at Sc2. Wanting to get better to beat your oponents is the way to do it.
But yeah positivity is good i guess but it's not the most important thing.
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Tossup
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States208 Posts
July 21 2011 04:57 GMT
#94
On July 18 2011 05:47 Aletheia27 wrote:
I don't understand why this is in strategy....


*sigh* ur such a kill joy.


@OP Great advice. Particularly about the raging and trash talking bit.
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 21 2011 05:27 GMT
#95
This is not me at all.

I think most Zerg players are angry people ;/
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Ragnarok87
Profile Joined June 2011
United States55 Posts
July 21 2011 05:46 GMT
#96
On July 21 2011 14:27 Belial88 wrote:
I think most Zerg players are angry people ;/


I'd replace angry with aggressive. We like to assert ourselves :-D
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
July 21 2011 06:07 GMT
#97
1 should be "be well mannered" or "have good manners"

Additionally, your example with IdrA is way off the mark. IdrA has won a couple of tournaments-- he's also gotten to the ro8 in GSL Code S, a feat only one other foreigner can say. There are plenty of people who are really nice in real life, but can't hack it in tournaments. FXOSheth is a fantastic player, and the nicest person on Bnet, but he has made literally zero noise in tournaments.IdrA's mindset may be his downfall, but I seriously doubt that the best way to drastically improve your play is to think positively.

It is better, by far, to have played 10,000 games, and go on tilt all the time, than to have played 5,000, and to never get angry at the game at all. Anger can be channeled into a more efficient mindset, and while this is difficult to do, being able to do it isn't going to win games. Mechanics and experience are the best ways to drastically improve.
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
July 21 2011 08:13 GMT
#98
^ But we can clearly see sheth is much healthier than idra.
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Vargarr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 12:33:36
July 21 2011 12:31 GMT
#99
Besides that this thread shouldn't be in the strategy section (because psychological preparation isn't a strategy, it's just common sense) I can't help but feel that this thread is lacking so much.

Obviously a mindset can affect work, sports, and critical thinking. However, this only preaches basic thought. There isn't great philosophical or scientific thinking in it. It's just words that most people are raised into thinking. It doesn't draw a line into the negative affects of playing a game for fun, and not in a serious manner at all; and the positive effects of taking the game seriously and not in a casual manner. There are hundreds of tips to give and the main post only gives four, and it doesn't dive into great detail... Overall this thread seems to be severely lacking.
Untold
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3 Posts
July 21 2011 13:00 GMT
#100
I definetely think this is helpful to everyone. I know sometimes when I get dt'd or 6 pooled I want to call him a piece of shit. But instead I just say gg and leave.
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