[Q]Many Pro/Top players don't use camera hotkeys? - Page 3

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

August 09 2011 03:48 GMT

#41

As Zerg i use them a bit. When ever i have more than 4 bases i camera save the additional ones, unless they're at a part of the map that is highly contested. (I don't inject from these camera saved bases, i just have like 3 macro hatches with queens, placed at my Main, Nat and 3rd respectively)

Actually the one i use the most i almost forgot about, cause i do it so often i don't even think about it anymore. I use Space bar for a camera save, and it always has where my hatches rally too. very helpful for reinforcements.

Though to answer your original question, i don't actually know of any pros that use camera saves, for certain. Also i will say that my hotkey set up is very unorthodox and i all my camera saves were placed much closer than F5 - F8 + shifts.

101toss

3232 Posts

August 09 2011 03:54 GMT

#42

I use them, it seems to have carried over from my BW experience

RoboBob

United States798 Posts

August 09 2011 06:35 GMT

#43

I gotta admit I didn't think I'd get much use out of camera saves. But I was totally wrong.

Basically I remapped the "save camera" hotkeys from Ctrl+F12345 to Shift+12345 to make it much more comfortable.

On most maps I have a four base gameplay, so instead of spamming I set up F1,2,3,4 to my 4 bases. And then I use F5 as my "floating" camera. In the early game its my ramp, in the midgame its where I want to build production facilities, and in the lategame its my rally point. I like the F5 as the floating camera because on my keyboard I have a gap between F4 and F5 and that helps prevent misclicks.

I use camera saves for so much more than just worker maynarding. I use F1 and F2 a TON in the early game to defend harass, it really helps.

I play T, but I think the other races would benefit even more by using camera saves. Z for creep tumor spreads, P for proxy pylons.

chipman

United States139 Posts

August 09 2011 06:55 GMT

#44

On July 12 2011 18:03 Eleaven wrote:

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It's really good for worker transfers too(or just doing a quick drone count- it's also very slightly quicker than double tapping a queen hotkey).

also for P players it's so good for chronoboosting upgrades.
When i played toss for about 500 games, i'd have my forges in standardised locations every game, usually in range of my 1st cam location. Easiest chronoboosting around.. so quick too. Frustrating to know how easy and powerful it is, and see so many toss completely ignore one of their biggest advantages: Upgrades

It's only so hard to throw tech buildings to a far off ctrl group. The only difference between doing this and what you're suggesting is it takes fewer actions to do the same thing with ctrl group, with the con of course being you're consuming a ctrl grp.

That said, I don't use 8-9 for things I need to be button mashing (I keep my army in 1-3 and my production/scouting 4-7 for quick/easy access) so I have no problems binding upgrades per race to those further away hotkeys, as opposed to a location, as I'm not really trained from broodwar in the matter like others are, this is how I've compensated in my learning by just feeling/thinking things out myself.

That said, I'm sure there are many uses for locations, like multiple base locations or proxy pylon locations etc I could use to ping around the map faster (or when I'm off-racing, rally locations), but it just feels so odd for me, I'm sure my play would suffer while learning to do it, and my mouse accuracy needs a hella lotta work anyways so I don't mind having to click around on the mini map at all.

Will note that using f keys on my tiny laptop buttons in particular is relatively impossible to do (and save time/effort) with my meaty fingers. I used to use f1-f4 all the time while playing on a desktop set up where the " ~ " or " ` " was spaced off a little more to the side to also let me *feel* where the fkeys began and spaced after f4 or f5 or something to let me *feel* where they ended... Neither of which I have on my ghetto laptop keyboard.