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Lusus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 20:43:06
November 21 2010 20:42 GMT
#121
Watching your replays shows that you are incredibly bad mannered (i.e. a jerk). Stop replying and giving him the attention he doesn't deserve.

Yes I see the irony in posting myself...
"nothing suspicious going on here" ~Huk
MrMoist
Profile Joined August 2010
United States72 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 22:47:34
November 21 2010 20:49 GMT
#122
On November 22 2010 05:25 Grim Hatter wrote:
Can I touch you?


depends
asl?

-Stay Moist
A bank is where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain.
Crystal368
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden161 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 21:00:11
November 21 2010 20:59 GMT
#123
Wow, that bm in those replays. Golden.

What if you would fail with the 12 drone rush, where you typed GG moving to his base lol
|MKP|MMA|ThorZaIN|SjoW|SeleCT|
mx99
Profile Joined March 2010
Poland23 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 21:34:22
November 21 2010 21:23 GMT
#124
So theoretically..., even with first lost SCV - that one from barrack, with 11 SCV's (45 health) and one (possibly more) in building queue vs 12 drones 40 health (+some regen) terran should easily defend against this rush. Even wihout autorepair and stuff like that. Am i missing something ?
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
November 21 2010 22:03 GMT
#125
No you got the point alright. If you attack something that doesn't attack back, you win the fight. Suprising isn't it?
I speak fluent sarcasm.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
November 21 2010 22:22 GMT
#126
SCVs repairing against 12 drone rush burns through minerals extremely quickly.

With proper micro the zerg actually has a very high chance to win. It really comes down to positioning more than anything.
Lil.Sassy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
November 21 2010 22:44 GMT
#127
On November 22 2010 07:22 Genome852 wrote:
SCVs repairing against 12 drone rush burns through minerals extremely quickly.

With proper micro the zerg actually has a very high chance to win. It really comes down to positioning more than anything.


It just comes down to responding quickly instead of just sitting there letting your workers die
Ughghghg
Parra
Profile Joined September 2010
United States152 Posts
November 21 2010 22:53 GMT
#128
How little of the game have you learned while cheesing your way to mid-diamond. How terrible is your macro?
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
November 21 2010 23:03 GMT
#129
can u give a replay of u cheesing wif archons
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
November 21 2010 23:05 GMT
#130
A win is a win.

Props to you, OP. If five-minute rushes weren't supposed to exist, then people would be able to stop all of these quick attacks easily and every map would have destructible rocks in front of each base. Your micro is probably better than any non-cheeser's, while they probably have better macro than you.

While you may be missing out on late game strategies and the benefits of the ends of the tech tree, it's hilarious to watch people mock you for finding your own niche. Instead of QQing about cheese, maybe they should learn to prepare for it by scouting, defending, and countering.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
November 21 2010 23:14 GMT
#131
I don't mean to disrespect what you're doing here, but that protoss game was a horrible example. The guy supply blocked himself early on and also built 0 sentries - any early push (non-cheese) would kill him.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
November 21 2010 23:52 GMT
#132
Massive troll thread :D
@ Title: "1850 Diamond" - Shows certain amounts of skill
@ Trigger: "Cheeser" - Troll bait, brings out all the self-righteous macro bunnies

On November 20 2010 12:15 Sajiki wrote:
Do you have self-respect?

Seen this Idra reference at least twice in the thread.

And against all those cheese haters, I'm gonna defend this guy.
He's a baller.
Prophecy3
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada223 Posts
November 22 2010 00:02 GMT
#133
On November 22 2010 08:52 sArite_nite wrote:
Massive troll thread :D
@ Title: "1850 Diamond" - Shows certain amounts of skill
@ Trigger: "Cheeser" - Troll bait, brings out all the self-righteous macro bunnies

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 12:15 Sajiki wrote:
Do you have self-respect?

Seen this Idra reference at least twice in the thread.

And against all those cheese haters, I'm gonna defend this guy.
He's a baller.



lol, totally. Me too.

Even though I hate cheese, and don't cheese much myself, there's a couple of things that are important. Maybe i'm biased though since i'm Terran and just lol@cheese.

1) It's part of the meta game, and despite most people hating 1Base All-ins, it is clearly viable if extremely risky.

2) Hilarious in tourneys, you can't seriously say you weren't rooting for the MLG HuKship rushes to win?

3) If you can almost guarantee taking a game off your opponent in a super important tourney and possibly make them go on tilt.. DO IT!
Ignorance is Bliss? Indifferance is Atrocity.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 00:11:48
November 22 2010 00:11 GMT
#134
Is there any decent cheese A protoss can use against zerg at the 1400 diamond level with a good success rate? (Not cannon rush, something reliable)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 22 2010 00:22 GMT
#135
how do i stay moist?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
pilsken
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany441 Posts
November 22 2010 00:24 GMT
#136
Not cannon rush, something reliable)


Cannon rush vs FE / cannon wall-in are reliable as cheese gets. cheese is per definitionem never reliable and can never be. If it would be reliable, it wouldn't be cheese but a solid strategy. Reliable is only good macro/micro, awarness, scouting and decision making.

@ Title: "1850 Diamond" - Shows certain amounts of skill


1850 Diamond with Cheese show exactly zero amount of skill. If you only ever play till the 6th min max, you need very little skill. Like Day9 said, you could easily 4-gate your way to the top of diamond (and if the guys in the state-of-the-game podcast don't tell bullshit, thats exactly what OptikZero has done) and this is even worse than 4-gating.

Any decent player might lose to this shit once, but really never twice.
traca
Profile Joined October 2010
146 Posts
November 22 2010 00:24 GMT
#137
basically you are at 2k points after 200 games online and 2600 pts after 600
Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
November 22 2010 00:28 GMT
#138
OP: why did you port an annoying 4chan meme to team liquid as a thread
Dr. Stan is my hero ((: - http://www.soundwaves2000.com/radio_liberty/
Frobert
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada113 Posts
November 22 2010 00:31 GMT
#139
Mr. Moist, you prematurely GGed 3 times in your 12 drone rush. I think I understand why you can't play a macro game. You just can't control yourself for more than a few minutes before losing it and blowing your BM load everywhere.

In all seriousness though, the replays you posted definitely show your lack of class. Macro is a gentleman's game.
aeoliant
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada361 Posts
November 22 2010 00:36 GMT
#140
what's your favourite thing to say after they scout your cheese? like during that moment where you know your opponent is like "oh shiii-". usually i stick to the old but still classy 'how do you like dem apples?"
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