EPTNot cheesing teaches you macro.
Lemme borrow your pic Moist.
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Ask a 1850pt Random Diamond Cheeser anything. - Page 6
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Not cheesing teaches you macro. Lemme borrow your pic Moist. | ||
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JustPlay
United States211 Posts
On November 21 2010 03:44 Coolcatqt wrote: You can improve a lot from doing high risk/non-standard play that a competitive player wouldn't want to use. It often requires excellent decision making, micro, and some times macro. Also, while obviously not beginning in the ideal situation, you can turn cheese/aggression in to a macro game against most 2200-2500 pt diamond players.Why do you cheese? Isn't it more fun to improve? With that said, 6 pool is not something I'd advise if you are trying to improve by doing whatever the hell you want. There's lots of highly aggressive plays or hilarious fakes you can do that don't put you that far behind and can often cause people to over-react or go a certain tech path/one base longer than they should. | ||
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aquanda
United States477 Posts
Copying cheesy build orders is hard, after all. | ||
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AnAngryDingo
United States223 Posts
opening with cheese vs a random is not. | ||
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MrMoist
United States72 Posts
On November 21 2010 08:24 NexUmbra wrote: Since you didn't answer it earlier... What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen european swallow? as fast as a 12 drone rush. -Stay Moist | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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MrMoist
United States72 Posts
On November 21 2010 09:36 Froadac wrote: How do you play vs like 7 pool + drone rush on scrap station? You're not giving me enough information, what race are you playing? Terran can just wall off. 2 barrack +1 supply would suffice i believe. stop producing scvs after you scout the 7pool and build 2 barracks instead. -Stay Moist | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On November 21 2010 09:51 FarJeylZmun wrote: You're not giving me enough information, what race are you playing? Terran can just wall off. 2 barrack +1 supply would suffice i believe. stop producing scvs after you scout the 7pool and build 2 barracks instead. -Stay Moist Fail. As terran. I scouted latish, so I just saw it coming. I treid to wall off, but they were able to focus down the building building. | ||
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canyoufelix
10 Posts
Might try that next time I end up on steppes of war ZvT. (That map literally = insta lose for me.) | ||
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MrMoist
United States72 Posts
On November 21 2010 09:57 Froadac wrote: Fail. As terran. I scouted latish, so I just saw it coming. I treid to wall off, but they were able to focus down the building building. oh my bad, this is on scrap station, which has a ridiculously huge choke. I'm not the person that defends against cheese. I'm only saying stuff that has worked against me, and so far i don't think a terran was able to stop a 6pool on scrap. Then again, i rarely sixpool on terran, i usually just expand and mass roaches. (macro ftl) | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Goliath-sc
France44 Posts
On November 21 2010 11:11 FarJeylZmun wrote: oh my bad, this is on scrap station, which has a ridiculously huge choke. I'm not the person that defends against cheese. I'm only saying stuff that has worked against me, and so far i don't think a terran was able to stop a 6pool on scrap. Then again, i rarely sixpool on terran, i usually just expand and mass roaches. (macro ftl) No. Since on scrap station the rush distance is very long, if scouted properly it can be stopped with 2 rax 2 supplies, or 2rax 1 eng bay 1 supply if you want more hit points on the eng bay. Don't forget to stop scv's production and get your marine ASAP. pull 4-5 scvs to repair and continue to build the buildings whose scv's has been killed. already done a few times it but don't have replay. | ||
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MrMoist
United States72 Posts
On November 21 2010 11:09 canyoufelix wrote: I just want to say that I literally laughed out loud watching the in game chat on the 12 drone rush <3 Might try that next time I end up on steppes of war ZvT. (That map literally = insta lose for me.) 12 drone rush ALWAYS works... IF the terran player isn't experienced in dealing with it. If you're a terran player that's trying to fight it off, my advice is to cancel the barracks (it'll be useless anyway, it'll only be like 1/8 done by the time the drones hit), and use that extra 150 minerals to buy 3 more scvs, and try to run around and stall until you can get those 3 SCV's out. also, have half bring your scvs and try to lock his drones into a choke, the scvs in the front will fight while the scvs in the back repair. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
On November 22 2010 02:29 FarJeylZmun wrote: 12 drone rush ALWAYS works... IF the terran player isn't experienced in dealing with it. If you're a terran player that's trying to fight it off, my advice is to cancel the barracks (it'll be useless anyway, it'll only be like 1/8 done by the time the drones hit), and use that extra 150 minerals to buy 3 more scvs, and try to run around and stall until you can get those 3 SCV's out. also, have half bring your scvs and try to lock his drones into a choke, the scvs in the front will fight while the scvs in the back repair. See, this is the problem with stupid cheeses against people with above mediocre intelligence. Use common sense, and you'll beat it. There's nothing new or refreshing with this tip. Scvs has more life and they can repair. People will only lose if they're retarded. You don't need experience to come to this conclusion, nor do you need some guy, with an inflated sense of worth because he has hit medium ranged in diamond with shitty builds, to tell you this. | ||
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
On November 21 2010 11:33 Microlisk wrote: I love random players cause they always cheese so its a free win due to their poor execution and macro. C'mon, don't generalize us. | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
Live strong Tl.  | ||
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
What can ya do? | ||
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Grim Hatter
Poland52 Posts
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