EPT[G]TvZ Marine/Raven - Page 30
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Psychonaut
United States11 Posts
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
On November 18 2010 11:14 Psychonaut wrote: Roaches crush this combo no they dont, watch the pokebunny replay thx for the input tho | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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roliax
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Also, it's always good to see replays when it works and T wins...what I'd also like to see ones where the build doesn't work (when it really doesn't work, not like T got cheesed or some stupid like that). | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On November 18 2010 16:49 chaoser wrote: Been doing this build pretty much 90% of the time vZ since I saw this thread. Gotta say, it's made me fall in love with the ZvT matchup. I hated the whole timing push strats that most terrans were going for, waiting in your base while muta just flew around and zerg expanded. Now I feel like I'm actually doing something. Even when zerg loses to this strat, most of the time they straight up tell me gg and thanks for the good game. When I lose, I think the same thing. It's really a momentum and back and forth type of thing. Totally wish this would be stickied, spice up the OP with lots of pics lol rofl is that u chaoser? ahahahah play me naooo!!! (agn) If it is you, you should be ty'ing me for hooking you up with this strat :D next time your onlinegive me some games. | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
Hm, i will try to find a replay but i don't believe i still have it. EDIT : Don't have it  | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
You move out with 3/4 ravens 25 rines, then get surrounded by lings blings muta. The problem I have is that the ravens never make it home after big pushes. what do i do? | ||
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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On November 18 2010 23:56 Tha_Docta wrote: Hey Antisocialmunky, what do you do in this situation. You move out with 3/4 ravens 25 rines, then get surrounded by lings blings muta. The problem I have is that the ravens never make it home after big pushes. what do i do? In that exact situation, you should focus the mutas as best you can. But really, when you have 3-4 ravens that should be when you have your 2nd maybe 3rd push (from my experience) By then, your marine waves should be alotttttt bigger. Focusing down the mutas makes them die real quick. If the mutas chase, you can seeker them or even just move up with marines. As a Z player, I never seem to be able to kill Ravens fast enuff with mutas due to marine reinforcement etc. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
That is unless he's doing it off 2 base. That's somewhat tricky as its harder to push out. | ||
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
On November 19 2010 00:01 Antisocialmunky wrote: Dropping a PDD, and turrets, and sending your second wave that was macroed up while you pushed out is usually how I do it. Some reps would be good. That's not a whole lot of marines for a timing with 4 ravens. Okay Thanks, Il try it again and if im still having problems il put up some reps. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Well the thing you need against against aoe units is a good unit control, and zergs went for pretty macroish tactics. So i guess its pretty nice against a macro zerg. Not playing zerg atm. So just some theoretical things. Spinecrawlers should work really well at the start against early agression. (you would need a good drop scouting though(so vikings would get annoying)) And later on they can defend the mineral lines against auto turrets. Dunno if burrow cancels the aoe from the hsm (you would need a super good eye though) If the terran constantly tryes to trade armys, and get an advantage because his units are so cheap, it would be good to save units. 0/3 roaches with burrow regene could help there i guess. (don't know though if they can withstand the marines and catch enough shots, since burrowing a roach may decrease the damage to much). The seeker missile, would also be an thread, so you would have to micro the roaches. Roaches would mean though you will have some overgas, and will be able to go for some harassment, since an aggressiv player will have some hohles in his defense. So zerg will have to play a bit terran like and sneak in 3 roaches etc ^^. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On November 18 2010 11:14 Psychonaut wrote: Roaches crush this combo Hey welcome to TL. I think you're lost though, Blizzard forums are over there ———————> srsly though, there are a lot of replays, and many of them show roaches losing. This isn't the place for useless one liners and lazy theory crafting. Unless you are trolling....to which I say bravo to you sir, you got me. For those having trouble with ultras, just make sure you're on top of upgrades and start pumping some marauders. Use barracks placement to your advantage to block or funnel. I actually had a nice replay on Xelnaga caverns of me trading pretty evenly against heavy roaches and banelings and some infestors, and then he got ultras out. My 3/3 marines actually owned them and the roaches with a little bit of micro and positioning. Marauders would have made it even easier. I'm not sure I saved the replay since i didn't really use ravens. Just sone tanks and lots of medivacs. And a handful of banshees when I realized that roaches can't shoot up. I'll share the replay if I have it once my computer gets fixed, but it's looking more likely that I'll have to reinstall windows so I might lose all my replays. Not sure if they are in my backed up files or not O.o | ||
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Or do you mean when they attack your marines. Again it depends on timing. You can look at KME's reps. | ||
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