• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:23
CEST 22:23
KST 05:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0 BWCL Season 65 Announcement
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8072 users

[D] PvZ - 2 Warpgate Forge FE - Page 3

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
coltrane
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Chile988 Posts
September 16 2010 04:40 GMT
#41
I have been playing around with this since the GSL started, I thought on making some thread about it, but I was banned in the forums this last week. Gonna provide some reps tomorrow. Good catch with the 50 energy to chrono boost the core, and with the decision about +1 ground or hallu, those both things costed me more than a few games this last week, I was doing both ups and/or not boosting the wg upgrade many times, I will try that tomorrow.
Jävla skit
techh
Profile Joined June 2010
Iceland82 Posts
September 18 2010 21:10 GMT
#42
What do you do if the zerg goes muta ling? once he has like 15ish muta's.. afew cannons wont stop him harassing the mineral line,

Also notice no cannons at the main in the Firezerg replay, i feel like this stratt is really vulnerable to muta ling.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
September 18 2010 21:26 GMT
#43
On September 16 2010 04:38 Tergeron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2010 23:21 Markwerf wrote:
I was just about to write a guide about this or a very similar build I do against zerg. Because it does differ a bit and I had just done making some wall-in pictures etc I will put it in another thread though. Don't want to put in all here in a reply basically.



If you don't mind, could I link to your thread so people can find the other build order? The concept is the same but obviously different.

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 02:31 wxwx wrote:
how'd you find the BO's of the GSL players? All I see is VODs and it's pretty difficult to determine stuff like timings.. how many chrono boosts to do on warp gate etc etc.


I did a lot of experimenting and going through a lot of iterations, it's very possible that my BO is not even similar to what we see in GSL. That's why I've asked in my post if anyone knew the BO so they could post it for us.


Ye it would be nice if you linked in your post. The basic idea's are quite the same in the build orders (sentries to expand relatively fast) but yet different enough to warrant their own threads I think.


Miraqle
Profile Joined July 2010
United States20 Posts
September 19 2010 22:06 GMT
#44
On September 19 2010 06:10 techh wrote:
What do you do if the zerg goes muta ling? once he has like 15ish muta's.. afew cannons wont stop him harassing the mineral line,

Also notice no cannons at the main in the Firezerg replay, i feel like this stratt is really vulnerable to muta ling.


This build can move into a very aggressive mid game quite quickly before zerg can get any kind of threatening muta/ling army out. Once your nat is saturated and you are running off 4+ gates you can pretty much drop a proxy pylon and constantly pressure with a +1 army and do enough damage to win the game right there. I can't imagine a zerg player playing standard and getting a big enough muta force to overwhelm any toss army. Also, your tech is totally open and you can go to 4 gas far earlier than most builds which means you can free tech to blink while still pumping gas units.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 37m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 343
JuggernautJason39
Nathanias 29
Nina 2
StarCraft: Brood War
IndyStarCraft 179
NaDa 14
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu528
Other Games
summit1g19328
Grubby4545
Gorgc2869
Liquid`RaSZi2245
FrodaN1067
fl0m960
shahzam421
B2W.Neo358
hungrybox205
C9.Mang0172
UpATreeSC120
Livibee78
Mew2King57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1682
StarCraft 2
WardiTV638
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 43
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki23
• HerbMon 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4516
• WagamamaTV394
League of Legends
• TFBlade1040
Other Games
• imaqtpie756
• Shiphtur127
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 37m
Replay Cast
3h 37m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
14h 37m
RotterdaM Event
19h 52m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
GSL
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-16
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.