• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:29
CET 19:29
KST 03:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros2[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win42025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros DreamHack Open 2013 revealed Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Schizophrenia of KOR-EN…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1775 users

Answering Terran Questions - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 25 Next All
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 20:28 GMT
#101
On September 14 2010 02:15 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 02:11 Bair wrote:
On September 14 2010 02:09 truckerdaves wrote:
On September 14 2010 01:56 SocialFilth wrote:
ummmm ya.....



you shouldnt be aloud to make posts


You shouldn't be allowed to criticize others.


yeah you're just trying to be clever here, but he actually has a valid criticism. That post is completely unacceptable.


Play nice ^^
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Trump
Profile Joined April 2010
United States350 Posts
September 13 2010 20:41 GMT
#102
On September 14 2010 05:17 Vegasminion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 04:36 moonkei wrote:
Nice info Yosho, it was fun watching you play against Trump the other day.

BTW, You're not from Vegas are you? Just curious since it's part of your user name.


My beta name was Vega, beta 2 it was vegasminion, now it's Yosho.

Thanks! I enjoy playing vs trump, cool guy. Doesn't talk much lately though.


Oh, I owe you an explanation for this

I'm sockfolding.
Friendship is Magic! <3
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 20:43:27
September 13 2010 20:43 GMT
#103
On September 14 2010 05:41 Trump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 05:17 Vegasminion wrote:
On September 14 2010 04:36 moonkei wrote:
Nice info Yosho, it was fun watching you play against Trump the other day.

BTW, You're not from Vegas are you? Just curious since it's part of your user name.


My beta name was Vega, beta 2 it was vegasminion, now it's Yosho.

Thanks! I enjoy playing vs trump, cool guy. Doesn't talk much lately though.


Oh, I owe you an explanation for this

I'm sockfolding.


You must have bigfoot as a guest or lots of feet you mutant <3
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
JaddF
Profile Joined April 2010
Bulgaria16 Posts
September 13 2010 20:47 GMT
#104
What do you think about the recent - 3-1-2 and 2-1-1 BO vs toss ? I think that 3-1-2 is kinda all in but if it's executed nicely it's just devastating . 2-1-1 is similiar to morrow's bo which is very good . What is your favorite BO for countering 1 gate FE by toss ?

Which opening do you prefer against zerg in maps with 4 positions like LT , metalopolis , delta and etc ?
Terran are so imba , Especially in TvT , They have 100 % win rate ^^
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 20:56 GMT
#105
On September 14 2010 05:47 JaddF wrote:
What do you think about the recent - 3-1-2 and 2-1-1 BO vs toss ? I think that 3-1-2 is kinda all in but if it's executed nicely it's just devastating . 2-1-1 is similiar to morrow's bo which is very good . What is your favorite BO for countering 1 gate FE by toss ?

Which opening do you prefer against zerg in maps with 4 positions like LT , metalopolis , delta and etc ?


I think that in TvP you need a second base fast, like they do. All in simply is strong but it is a risk. Both races need more tech to really counter each other and very hard to afford on 1 base.

I prefer some build that leads into an expansion, however those builds are strong and worthy of play. In order to counter FE I like to FE or harass with some sort of drop.

I prefer hellion openings but I am also known for going pure viking mass.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
September 13 2010 20:57 GMT
#106
Hello Yosho,

I am currently a rank 7 Platinum Random player. I have some questions about your random play.

First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?

Secondly, I never played beta, or any other RTS before. I read TL everyday and watch livestreams when I'm eating or doing somethin else on my computer, and it has taught me alot. I don't really have any build orders either. I have a standard opening that I do and then just transition based on my opponents play.

I've found that most players at my level don't know positioning or how to micro. I let them attack me, then I expand. I'm horrible at multi tasking, but it gets better with the game.

My question is, what would be time spent more wisely? Practicing specific matchups, practicing micro, practicing macro while microing, or just playing games and getting games under my belt while watching replays?
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 20:59 GMT
#107
On September 14 2010 05:57 KhrisKruel wrote:
Hello Yosho,

I am currently a rank 7 Platinum Random player. I have some questions about your random play.

First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?

Secondly, I never played beta, or any other RTS before. I read TL everyday and watch livestreams when I'm eating or doing somethin else on my computer, and it has taught me alot. I don't really have any build orders either. I have a standard opening that I do and then just transition based on my opponents play.

I've found that most players at my level don't know positioning or how to micro. I let them attack me, then I expand. I'm horrible at multi tasking, but it gets better with the game.

My question is, what would be time spent more wisely? Practicing specific matchups, practicing micro, practicing macro while microing, or just playing games and getting games under my belt while watching replays?


I would practice micro and macro the most, those are universal between every race. Figuring out when to expand as well. THEN i would practice build orders.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
September 13 2010 21:01 GMT
#108
On September 14 2010 02:11 Bair wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 02:09 truckerdaves wrote:
On September 14 2010 01:56 SocialFilth wrote:
ummmm ya.....



you shouldnt be aloud to make posts


You shouldn't be allowed to criticize others.


Neither should you.
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:08 GMT
#109
No drama TY.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
CHOChi
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany73 Posts
September 13 2010 21:09 GMT
#110
On September 14 2010 05:59 Vegasminion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 05:57 KhrisKruel wrote:
Hello Yosho,

I am currently a rank 7 Platinum Random player. I have some questions about your random play.

First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?

Secondly, I never played beta, or any other RTS before. I read TL everyday and watch livestreams when I'm eating or doing somethin else on my computer, and it has taught me alot. I don't really have any build orders either. I have a standard opening that I do and then just transition based on my opponents play.

I've found that most players at my level don't know positioning or how to micro. I let them attack me, then I expand. I'm horrible at multi tasking, but it gets better with the game.

My question is, what would be time spent more wisely? Practicing specific matchups, practicing micro, practicing macro while microing, or just playing games and getting games under my belt while watching replays?


I would practice micro and macro the most, those are universal between every race. Figuring out when to expand as well. THEN i would practice build orders.


could you answer that part too please
First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?
Don't worry. I got this
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
September 13 2010 21:10 GMT
#111
On September 14 2010 06:01 WarChimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 02:11 Bair wrote:
On September 14 2010 02:09 truckerdaves wrote:
On September 14 2010 01:56 SocialFilth wrote:
ummmm ya.....



you shouldnt be aloud to make posts


You shouldn't be allowed to criticize others.


Neither should you.


I don't get this post. The one it's quoting is just referring to the obvious mistake in the one above that, saying that if youre going to criticize someone, you should at least make sure you're at least somewhat faultless.

However your post is just criticizing someone for criticizing which seems hypocritical to me.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
September 13 2010 21:11 GMT
#112
how do you lose to protoss if you do like 1 reactor rax 1 factory for hellions and 2 ports to deal with w/e if left (banshees+raven for stalkers vikings for the rest of toss air)
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:13 GMT
#113
On September 14 2010 06:09 CHOChi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2010 05:59 Vegasminion wrote:
On September 14 2010 05:57 KhrisKruel wrote:
Hello Yosho,

I am currently a rank 7 Platinum Random player. I have some questions about your random play.

First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?

Secondly, I never played beta, or any other RTS before. I read TL everyday and watch livestreams when I'm eating or doing somethin else on my computer, and it has taught me alot. I don't really have any build orders either. I have a standard opening that I do and then just transition based on my opponents play.

I've found that most players at my level don't know positioning or how to micro. I let them attack me, then I expand. I'm horrible at multi tasking, but it gets better with the game.

My question is, what would be time spent more wisely? Practicing specific matchups, practicing micro, practicing macro while microing, or just playing games and getting games under my belt while watching replays?


I would practice micro and macro the most, those are universal between every race. Figuring out when to expand as well. THEN i would practice build orders.


could you answer that part too please
Show nested quote +
First off, how do you capitilize on the fact that you're random? I've been playing with not sending an early scout to force them to scout and have those extra 40 mins a minute. With Platinum players, I find everyone always does some sort of early rush. If I delay my scout, I usually can catch it fast enough and my extra worker in the early stages helps with that. Sometimes it also fails horribly. How do you deal with the early extra info of race?




My apologies, I normally didn't scout and expected cheese or a normal build. I simply went to counter a normal build or cheesed myself. However on occasion I went a normal build to practice micro and macro. For example, against toss. Ling into baneling, they had to wall off.

or against terran maybe go for a fast 9 zealot into stalkers.

or 2 gate on a 2 player map
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Sitizen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States34 Posts
September 13 2010 21:30 GMT
#114
Hey yosho thanks for doing this thread. I'm 1k diamond and I have the most trouble, by far, with P early to mid game. What are your goals early to mid game against P? Are there certain things you always try to do when engaging in fights, or macroing?

When you review your losses against P in games less than 15minutes what are some conclusions you normally draw? Oh, I needed to do this when I engaged, or Oh, I should have done this as I was moving out macrowise.
JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
September 13 2010 21:42 GMT
#115
Hello there I'm a gold level terran player and have trouble with zerg specifically when they mass muta's what's the best counter for them? Both in the mid and late game (if there is a difference i'm not sure) thanks
Diamond Protoss ~
babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 21:46:34
September 13 2010 21:45 GMT
#116
Hey Yosho thanks a lot for the Q&A thread.

Lately I have seen some TvP games where the T does an interesting push. Open with the usual rax into 2gases into factory, second rax with tech lab, armory. The raxes are constantly pumping marines and a tech lab is used to get stim asap. You push with a bunch of marines with stim and a thor (with some scvs for repair if you want to). It seems to be pretty potent esp. if toss goes 1gate into robo for obs.

Do you feel this is a strong opening against Toss that can be used to get an expansion and transition into something like bio with thor banshee? Also are there any scenarior where you feel this push could fail hard? I guess 4 warp gate could be one but still that thor+stim marine combo focuses down zealots so quickly and then its a simple cleanup.
babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:50 GMT
#117
On September 14 2010 06:11 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
how do you lose to protoss if you do like 1 reactor rax 1 factory for hellions and 2 ports to deal with w/e if left (banshees+raven for stalkers vikings for the rest of toss air)


if you give them time to get storm, storm counters this build heavily.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:52 GMT
#118
On September 14 2010 06:30 Sitizen wrote:
Hey yosho thanks for doing this thread. I'm 1k diamond and I have the most trouble, by far, with P early to mid game. What are your goals early to mid game against P? Are there certain things you always try to do when engaging in fights, or macroing?

When you review your losses against P in games less than 15minutes what are some conclusions you normally draw? Oh, I needed to do this when I engaged, or Oh, I should have done this as I was moving out macrowise.


My thoughts are prepare for the inevitable change to collasai or storm by expanding and getting the proper tech while out micro'ing in the current battle. if it's already out use delay tactics to get my tech up.

Most losses I have are from 4 gate all in while I try to fast expand against practice partners. other then that it's when they sneak a gold expo, however I usually win.

my most needed skill is to scout more and that is usually what lets me die is not scouting enough.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:54 GMT
#119
On September 14 2010 06:42 JMC4 wrote:
Hello there I'm a gold level terran player and have trouble with zerg specifically when they mass muta's what's the best counter for them? Both in the mid and late game (if there is a difference i'm not sure) thanks

just muta's? thor, raven, marine. Thor = splash, Marine stops magic box, raven; point defense drone to stop a lot of muta damage.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Yosho
Profile Joined June 2010
585 Posts
September 13 2010 21:57 GMT
#120
On September 14 2010 06:45 babyToSS wrote:
Hey Yosho thanks a lot for the Q&A thread.

Lately I have seen some TvP games where the T does an interesting push. Open with the usual rax into 2gases into factory, second rax with tech lab, armory. The raxes are constantly pumping marines and a tech lab is used to get stim asap. You push with a bunch of marines with stim and a thor (with some scvs for repair if you want to). It seems to be pretty potent esp. if toss goes 1gate into robo for obs.

Do you feel this is a strong opening against Toss that can be used to get an expansion and transition into something like bio with thor banshee? Also are there any scenarior where you feel this push could fail hard? I guess 4 warp gate could be one but still that thor+stim marine combo focuses down zealots so quickly and then its a simple cleanup.


The thor is usually proxied into this, it's kind of all in if you proxy it. however if you don't you can transition to bio very easily with a few tanks and siege up to take your expo.

This push if stopped could cost you the game ( i did one it's in the replay pack ). thor banshee still loses to storm and feedback a proper unit mix maybe add hellions for the mineral dump with marines?

4 gate can lose to this if timed fast, the strongest versus this I believe is 1 gate robo into another gate. cut off army at the ramp when you're the toss, be careful if you're terran.
For master league random race videos and replays go to www.youtube.com/sc2yosho
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 237
ProTech100
Codebar 80
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Barracks 4557
Hyuk 2425
Dewaltoss 134
Shine 38
soO 20
HiyA 12
Dota 2
Gorgc4914
qojqva3897
Dendi1134
XcaliburYe94
capcasts61
Counter-Strike
fl0m1035
ScreaM472
allub174
Other Games
FrodaN1423
Beastyqt1156
B2W.Neo714
ceh9407
Lowko290
Hui .149
Liquid`VortiX124
KnowMe113
C9.Mang0111
Fuzer 91
ArmadaUGS85
QueenE65
Trikslyr44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 11
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 19
• FirePhoenix14
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3103
• masondota2725
• Ler57
League of Legends
• Nemesis4079
• TFBlade726
Other Games
• imaqtpie1248
• WagamamaTV294
• Shiphtur132
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 32m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
14h 32m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 32m
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
17h 32m
CrankTV Team League
18h 32m
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
Epic.LAN
1d 17h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 19h
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
2 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.