Answering Terran Questions - Page 8

On September 14 2010 12:21 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Have you tried 10Rax -> 10 Ref -> SCV -> Orbital + Depot. I think that's a little better and smoother than the 9Rax. The fast Orbital/Early mule makes up for the SCV you miss.

On September 14 2010 12:07 Vegasminion wrote:


1- I think the same build would work alright if you throw down a 2nd bunker at the start. mmmg - a very good strat

2- I do feel that if you can get away with fast expanding, you should, once it's up you have an instant advantage. (after it's paid for itself)

3- Yes, higher level players do account for that and place great missile turret areas. It is possible to win with PURE bio in the early game. However the more tanks the enemy has the less likely you can be effective.

Marines are great against banshee's if he has a way to catch them. Missile turrets provide very far range vision for detection. I would be weary of a raven to assist them. No you will not be 99% fine. Players who see it coming will save up scan and stim move under your banshee's. Then you're dead.

On September 14 2010 12:34 VERMM wrote:


1. ok sounds good, I will work on MMMG

2. I'm not sure if this was clear sorry, I meant when you are Terran verses a Protoss who fast expands. As the PvT FE build seems very viable vs anything really. If you did know what I was asking then I think I would agree with you and just fast expand myself but I feel kind of behind, if I respond to seeing him FEing and I FE, he has his expo up first and I would have to catch up a bit.

Maybe I should just FE if he has a delayed gateway? It seems whenever someone delays their gateway to 13 or 14 they are going to FE.

3. thank you very much, I felt like I was missing something. But what I didn't say was I am not relying on the banshee itself. I use the banshee to set him behind by making him do exactly what you said, spend money on earlier ebay + turrets, maybe even get a raven. Then if he wants to expand he has to build turrets there too, and has to put effort into making sure each hole is covered otherwise I can poke in to harass.

Then for battles he must use scans which sets him back even more. Even 1-2 banshee can force him to scan while I have the rest of my army.

I think the combination of him being forced to build the ebay and turrets while having to use scans in every battle without a raven gives me a huge advantage versus bio play. Especially since their raven is delayed. I felt that with all that money I saved on not having to do what he has to do I pretty much win if I'm equally skilled as I straight up have more resources.

What are your thoughts on the more specific sides of banshee open vs bio open? You are right in that it is not an auto-win but could you at least say it's the way I should go vs bio? I think I definitely gain an advantage from it. And that's even with ignoring the psychological aspect of being worried about banshees being anywhere at any time.

On September 14 2010 12:40 Vegasminion wrote:


delayed gateway can also mean hidden tech, dangerous.

picture terran player who has great turret placement, then instead of a raven he drops in your main with 2 medivacs of marine. 1 scan and you have to attack or you lose all your scvs and your main. It's very risky.

On September 14 2010 13:35 VERMM wrote:


@banshee
ah ok thanks man

@delayed gateway
I've never heard of this, now I'm confused. So if their 1st gateway is delayed it can mean FE or hidden tech. But wouldn't me expanding be good versus either of those?

I'm still confused about the hidden tech, why does a delayed gateway help people who want to hide their tech? When you say hidden tech do you mean fast tech that's hidden? or just normally timed tech that is hidden? I'm guessing the former.

If I do expand when I see a delayed gateway and it turns out to be hidden tech won't I be in an alright position anyways? What constitutes hidden tech? Fast immortals or something? If I see they don't expand I think I would put in the effort to find their hidden tech

I said hidden tech a lot

Sorry for the bother

On September 14 2010 14:15 Moja wrote:
Where can we view your stream? Is there a link on the TL SC2 home page?

On September 14 2010 14:43 pho308 wrote:
Hey Yosho, I was recently in the RH tournament with you when you went up against my boy Telov (and handed him a sound defeat), and I was wondering about your play on the first matchup.

I think you went refinery into rax/depot (I cant remember), and I was wondering what your thoughts were on that.

(Hope to see you on RH soon :D)