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On August 07 2010 01:10 Kinmaul wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 03:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Speedlings+lots of creep. You can't micro against lings on creep...
I did this build a ton months ago, it's good sure but zergs that really emphasize creep makes it a difficult game. Creep spreading + position of spawning pool makes a HUGE difference vs Reaper harrass. Reapers are most effective when they can run circles around your base and that path is going to go behind your minerals so they can pick off drones. This is somewhat map dependent but if you can block that small path with your pool you can pin them in with your slings + queen. A lot of zerg don't put their pool back there and that is a mistake vs terran imo.
Not just reapers, but hellions too. Might not be able to stop it with building positioning alone, but you do a good job towards it.
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Speaking as a Terran, it is possible for Zerg to still expo when Terran starts pulling these shenanigans. As long as you prevent a bunker from coming up you're still capable of defending your expo. My biggest recommendation would be to get zergling speed and a second queen, although if getting roaches + second queen is faster, by all means try it out. After you're on 2 base... you're on your own. I've had very little difficulty transitioning out of mass reaper, especially since Terran can afford to scan Zerg's tech now that Zerg has no economic advantage. My best advice is to pull off something unexpected, hide lair tech in a really obscure corner of your base or something. Also, taking minimal damage from reapers is a necessity to stand a chance, so make whatever kind of defense you need to hold them off.
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you pretty much have todo a speedling into roach opening & contineu with speedlings
you CAN make it with speedlings & banelings only but its tricky you have to know when & where hes comming up your cliff & position banelings there the reapers come up unknowing & splash all gone
this is tricky
speedlings / roaches is much more solid
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Why would one go into roach? Based on the replays it seems the transition (if you survive) goes to marines and marauders, roaches won't fare too well against that. Spling/bling while teching to Lair seems to make more sense. In the Check videos he goes spling/bling into muta.
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On August 07 2010 01:35 Bair wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 01:10 Kinmaul wrote:On August 05 2010 03:31 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Speedlings+lots of creep. You can't micro against lings on creep...
I did this build a ton months ago, it's good sure but zergs that really emphasize creep makes it a difficult game. Creep spreading + position of spawning pool makes a HUGE difference vs Reaper harrass. Reapers are most effective when they can run circles around your base and that path is going to go behind your minerals so they can pick off drones. This is somewhat map dependent but if you can block that small path with your pool you can pin them in with your slings + queen. A lot of zerg don't put their pool back there and that is a mistake vs terran imo. Not just reapers, but hellions too. Might not be able to stop it with building positioning alone, but you do a good job towards it.
Yeah I've had my hellion harrass get owned by a spawning pool behind the minerals as well.
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As a terran, I have to agree that this strat is too powerful against zerg right now. You can safely harass and scout while expanding.
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EPT
