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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 15:47:57
May 31 2010 15:47 GMT
#61
HSM does too little damage to be picked over PDD.
So no I dont see any viable way of using it besides trying to show some cute micro.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 31 2010 15:59 GMT
#62
On June 01 2010 00:40 Snowfield wrote:
idk about 2 units with the same abilities ^^

i know, it sounds weird, but at least that would be unique. And ravens and BCs already seem to fit together well, so I think it would work.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
May 31 2010 16:15 GMT
#63
The problem I see with it is that terran now has units that essentially 'hit' for HSM style damage. Before siege tanks got their buff, and when thors did no splash damage, the HSM was needed to fight certain enemies.
Now, why would you ever use HSM on hydras, just get 2-3 tanks, and you get a longer range un-dodgeable HSM every few seconds
got a clump of mutas railing on you?, a few thors will do the same level of damage every few seconds that an HSM would have done.

The only time I can see using HSM a lot would be if you spot a big clumped ball of an army, and can dart in, fire off 2-4 HSMs into that ball, and dart back out.
the HSM is being held weaker then it could be, because it is on a flying unit, and capable of being used to harass/whittle at an army.
gREIFOCs
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina208 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:03:13
May 31 2010 16:58 GMT
#64
I think they should be as effective as the landmines where in SC2.

They should be viable ways of poking a army and keeping it on his toes.

Dunno about the whole "this breaks your army, durr durr" concept. It could work as a way to demand micro from your rival, but if 1 HSM breaks half of your army, ill just wait for a push on a choke and release two from the front and back.

Although seeing this would be awesome, terrans allready have ways of dealing lots and lots of damage in this situations (ie sieged tanks). I would like to see a way for the HSM to bring some sort of map control through tactical micro managment.

Ok, trying to translate all that in to a simpler phrase.

I would like HSM to depelop in a direction that complements the terrans tools and not to compete with the effective tools that they allready have.
Don't work hard. You die at the end anyway, dummy.
gREIFOCs
Profile Joined April 2010
Argentina208 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 17:05:38
May 31 2010 17:04 GMT
#65
doublepostsorryforthemistakepleaseerase
Don't work hard. You die at the end anyway, dummy.
xnub
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada610 Posts
May 31 2010 17:07 GMT
#66
On June 01 2010 00:16 Snowfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 00:11 slowmanrunning wrote:
you will ALWAYS see either hydra, or muta in a zvt. I think HT's for toss and HSM for terran are under used against zerg because they do terrible damage, and they are very effective.


Against hydra or muta it will always be more beneficial to use the PDD


Useing hunter seeker missle vs mutas is a waste of eng 90 % of the time. People have the 10 apm to tell the mutas to turn around and run away and its a waste. Aslo not to stand right onto of the ravens lol.
Loving the beta !! Weeeeeeee
Diokhan
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland33 Posts
May 31 2010 18:04 GMT
#67
On June 01 2010 02:07 xnub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 00:16 Snowfield wrote:
On June 01 2010 00:11 slowmanrunning wrote:
you will ALWAYS see either hydra, or muta in a zvt. I think HT's for toss and HSM for terran are under used against zerg because they do terrible damage, and they are very effective.


Against hydra or muta it will always be more beneficial to use the PDD


Useing hunter seeker missle vs mutas is a waste of eng 90 % of the time. People have the 10 apm to tell the mutas to turn around and run away and its a waste. Aslo not to stand right onto of the ravens lol.

Personally I have had quite a bit of success with HSM against mutas. They stack into small pile so often that if you send a decent amount of vikings to draw the fire and attention then HSM them with your raven you'll quite often wipe them all out. No you wont be able to HSM them all match long because zerg'll be expecting it after first HSM(s), but overall I think 1-2 ravens hidden behind vikings is very effective way to deal with mutalisks, plus you'll want the ravens around to PDD hydras and scout any burrow cheese by roaches.
I am not opinionated, I am just always right.
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