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Keep our forum clean! PLEASE post your WIP melee maps in this thread for initial feedback. -Barrin

theworldofdustoerba

51 Posts

April 28 2013 01:24 GMT

#1061

WIP: Journey's End

Should I continue to finish this map? I don't know if its any good. Opinions appreciated. Thanks.

Uvantak

Uruguay1381 Posts

April 28 2013 04:08 GMT

#1062

@theworldofdust I... i... im uterly confused where are the mains & naturals?? :S

@Spinnaker that map looks reaaally nice, it remainds me of blue storm and i love that, i would make the map some minor tweaks, just some minor things since the general idea of the map is really good

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theworldofdustoerba

51 Posts

April 28 2013 04:57 GMT

#1063

@ Uvantak, main is at 7 o clock, with a leveled base for building your army structures. Natural, hmm i don't think there's a normal natural atm, but i think the 6 o clock should be the natural. therefore im thinking of not completely blocking the path to base 6 o clock. instead i guess i should remove or fully block the smaller ramp entrance that leads to the middle lower platforms.

Xenotolerance

United States464 Posts

April 28 2013 06:45 GMT

#1064

Ya it took me a while to figure it out. I spent a good ten minutes looking at journey's end trying to imagine how it could play out. It's so strange and so intriguing. Having two backdoors to the main seems excessive. Beside that I love it.

my updated WIP 186x180 4p all spawns

now that I look at it again I want to open up the middle on either side more.

sCnDiamond

Germany340 Posts

April 28 2013 21:57 GMT

#1065

I continued my map. Please don't point out cliffs being abuseable for drops - they are already disabled for ground units and are just missing the doodads to communicate that to the players.

Uvantak

Uruguay1381 Posts

April 28 2013 21:57 GMT

#1066

@theworldofdust i see. The map you have there is not standard, there's nothing inherently wrong about making a non standard map, but you must know that the game is balanced around having a near natural base, a choke point where to defend the main base, etc.

Neverless there can be non-standard maps that are balanced in the 6 MU's, but making one of those is really hard, and it will demand a high amount of knowledge on your part and to reach that knowledge i recomend you to start by checking how blizzard and other mapmakers make their maps and try to mimic them, and then when you are more experienced in the basics of mapping you can start doing balanced maps that are non-standard.

For your map i see some problems, like what would do a toss versus a ling flood if you remove those rocks between the "main" and natural? the lings would make havoc in the toss base.
As i said i recomend you to do more standard maps as a starting point and then advance to the harder maps like the non standard ones.

theworldofdustoerba

51 Posts

April 28 2013 22:53 GMT

#1067

Here's more of WIP : Journey's End (M - 2)

How's it looking so far you think? especially gameplay wise? (Textures are not final, just sloppy placeholders, also the platter of doodads are for my palette.)

Btw, I am sunlethwaterscape (Avura Springs, Dream's Strand, Catachresis), hard to believe, but I forgot my password and the linked email, so I had to make a new account unfortunately.

A large ramp is missing from this pic, sorry, supposed to be connecting the lower platform with the higher one that leads to the bipath way to the 6o clock natural.

Btw, does anyone know how to fix the snow textures (Niflheim)? They have really low definition for some reason, even with high video settings.

algue

France1436 Posts

April 29 2013 11:57 GMT

#1068

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Outdated (already...) :
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This is my first map, I haven't finished the texturing process and I haven't placed any doodads. I think i've dealt pretty well with the proportions (playable 166x136). It maybe be a bit too large still.

Thoughts on the layout :
Layout wise the B3 is easy to get but you may lose a couple worker. I'm thinking about adding a gap between the third and the low ground behind it.
I haven't tested yet but I think photon overcharge could get rid of many low ground harassment.
The 4th base is pretty easy to get. No matter how the players are positionned you can always get a 4th base further away from your opponent.
I'm also wondering if I shouldn't place a xelnaga tower right in the middle of the map with small bridges to capture it
All spawns allowed

Thoughts, advices and critics are welcomed

Edit : If you can't see the full picture, open it in a new tab
Edit 2 : I've added a xel naga right in the middle of the lava, it's perfect ! The vision of the tower stops right at the third base's cliff !

Here is an update of the map.
Name : Kemar's Haven
Size : 168x136
Version : 0.1
Uploaded on EU, you can play it if you want but there is a lot of things to change
Changelogs :
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V0.1
Added :
- Doodads (more to come)
- Gap filer
- Xelnaga tower
- Lava behind every 3rd
- Lava next to the main cliffs
- Fixed some textures

Changed :
- Pathing
- Middle (access to XNT)
- Destructible rocks placement

Are these changes benefic to the map ? What else should I change ?
For the doodads I'm gonna try to mimic my beloved "Incineration zone" but I'm not sure of the result.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

April 29 2013 14:56 GMT

#1069

On April 29 2013 07:53 theworldofdustoerba wrote:
Btw, does anyone know how to fix the snow textures (Niflheim)? They have really low definition for some reason, even with high video settings.

an issue with the snow textures is when zoomed out far, the LOD causes them to look all blurry and nondescript. at normal game camera view they will have full resolution. though, "snow icy" and "snow powdered" are relatively low res and may not look the best when combined with other texture sets.

Elldar

Sweden287 Posts

April 29 2013 17:30 GMT

#1070

Hi, I made this map mostly for fun but I share it here since why not?

It it is small (124x128) and has no natural third, but I think it has some perhaps inspirational aspects that one could take into consideration like like no ramp to main and in-base natural and un-buildable terrain in middle marked by zerus root tile (you see it more clearly in-game).

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If you have any suggestion please come with your remarks.

ps. the image is kind of skewed sorry for that.

#edit: I call it Zerus' Tableland Desert

FlyingBeer

United States262 Posts

April 29 2013 20:36 GMT

#1071

Current state of my 2v2 map:
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I'm not feeling super confident about the texturing so far. Zhakul'Das is so hard to work with. Maybe that's why almost nobody ever picks it. We'll see where it goes.

Denop

Canada14 Posts

April 30 2013 20:16 GMT

#1072

I have a WIP map can anybody give me suggestions?
144x144

a176

Canada6688 Posts

May 01 2013 00:46 GMT

#1073

Are 7 bases better than 6? Yes, yes they are.

The_Templar

your Country52797 Posts

May 01 2013 00:47 GMT

#1074

On May 01 2013 09:46 a176 wrote:
Are 7 bases better than 6? Yes, yes they are.

What? The above map only has 5 bases from what I can see.

Coppermantis

United States845 Posts

May 01 2013 02:44 GMT

#1075

@Denop:

Are the high ground areas by the natural droppable? It could be too easy to harass the natural from up there if so.

Current project:

sandstorm

8 Posts

May 01 2013 09:56 GMT

#1076

northland 144x144
my first map
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what do you think about the layout?

a176

Canada6688 Posts

May 02 2013 00:24 GMT

#1077

probably going to submit this version

Syphon8

Canada298 Posts

May 02 2013 07:56 GMT

#1078

The quest for a compacter map continues.

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First draft, 128x132

Uvantak

Uruguay1381 Posts

May 03 2013 00:26 GMT

#1079

Even tho i know that the map can be considered too chokey, i like it quite a bit, bit before i start texturing it more i would like to know what you guys think about it and your opinions and changes for the map.

//EDIT// forgot to say that the only droppeable places are those highlighted with pink

FlyingBeer

United States262 Posts

May 03 2013 01:27 GMT

#1080

That's pretty spiffy, Uvantak. But all the bases feel just so close together. I'd suggest knocking out the 4 and 10 o'clock bases on the high ground, and then pulling the two ramps back, so they're not so close to the other two. Also, having so many ramps can create a lot of needless complexity. Cloud Kingdom has 14, Daybreak has 16, Ohana has 10, Bel'shir Vestige has 20, Planet S has 18, Akilon Wastes has 16, yours has 30. I think you should look at all the ramps, ask yourself why you put that there, and decide if maybe you should get rid of it. Even though the chokes are appropriately sized, having so many similarly sized spaces makes it feel as if every map position is just as good as the one before it.

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