TL Map Contest Results - Page 19

On November 10 2011 16:23 IronManSC wrote:
Hey guys, I want to apologize on behalf of Funcmode and Mereel. We as a team put a good amount of effort into each map we make, and we adore aesthetic work. Yes, it can be frustrating when a seemingly low-effort, low-quality map tops a map that had 10x the work put into it, and that's what my two fellow teammates were basically saying. I vouch for the frustration as I've had a few of my maps get bumped out. This is something every map-maker understands, and viewers I encourage you to just simply understand that the work we do as a community is something we really admire. It's not fun to lose, but life has its loss i'm afraid.

And so, i apologize to the TL community for some of the unwanted attitudes flying around a little bit. I know some of you may have a bit of distaste toward the TPW team today, but most of us are excited for the winners and we take the hits, learn from them, and move on. Please understand this!

Congrats to the other winners

On November 10 2011 16:13 Toppp wrote:


It's called Feedback and constructive criticism , ever heard of it?

On November 10 2011 16:44 [wh]_ForAlways wrote:
Is it just me or does Sanctuary have a huge positional imbalance?
I made a picture below to represent it, and is it seems like the red player is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to taking his 3rd. The white player can secure his third far more easily than the red player. The red player could take base #4 as his 3rd as well but it's far more open and harder to secure (and potentially creates a problem where mutas are easily able to ping pong from the main to the 3rd very easily a la tal'darim altar)

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On November 10 2011 06:36 Antares777 wrote:

Also, timetwister22, you made Haven's Lagoon correct? Are all these people supporting your map because they are your friends or because they think that Haven's Lagoon is a good map? I just cannot fathom why everyone thinks that map is good. I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'm willing to give feedback on it and help you improve it if you want, but... meh I just don't like it right now.

On November 10 2011 07:03 RoboBob wrote:
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I understand that thirds close to mains are important to Zergs. But the beauty of Haven's Lagoon is that you're always expanding away from the enemy main. So even though the third is far from the main relative to most ladder maps, its also much more difficult for the opponent to punish that third. Any early push by the opponent to kill the third is extremely vulnerable to counterattack by the opposite ground. The choice to push along either the high or low ground is really cool too. Push along the high ground and you get the high ground advantage, but take longer to hit the opponent. Push along the low ground and you get to the opponent much faster, but then you relinquish the high ground to the opponent.

This dynamic continues into the lategame with the 5th and 6th bases, which is really really cool.

I'm not worried too much about the lack of chokes on the map because there's so many different levels. At first glance such an open map would be awesome for Zergs, but then you think about Terrans placing a PF on either the low ground third or the gold. Or for Protoss, Colossi cliff abusing the 4ths, threatening 4gates on open naturals, and a gazillion tough-to-scout locations to place proxy pylons.

The more I think about it, the cooler Haven's Lagoon looks. I might actually playtest that one.

On November 10 2011 16:44 [wh]_ForAlways wrote:
Is it just me or does Sanctuary have a huge positional imbalance?
I made a picture below to represent it, and is it seems like the red player is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to taking his 3rd. The white player can secure his third far more easily than the red player. The red player could take base #4 as his 3rd as well but it's far more open and harder to secure (and potentially creates a problem where mutas are easily able to ping pong from the main to the 3rd very easily a la tal'darim altar)


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On November 10 2011 13:47 Toppp wrote:
TPW seems extremely butthurt coming into this thread and bashing other peoples maps. Hard to believe you can be that bad mannered when most of you're maps placed so highly.

On November 10 2011 18:02 dezi wrote:

Well, at TPW we don't all have the same opinion and Mereels comment on this was just over the top. I myself was aware of some flaws in the in the maps i submitted (and FYI the maps submitted mostly have been overhauled for TLMC - lesser doodads to avoid those lag issues). What i just didn't liked: the kinda small judge board - but overall they seem to have chosen decent maps with Lagoon being maybe a possible Scrap v2 in their mindset.

So i'm absolutely fine with their decision and if Lagoon gonna win i'm pretty much sure it will be overhauled in terms of design. TLMC was all about Layout and that's might be why some guys (and even TPW members) complain about a map aesthetically not to good being in the top row. I'm looking forward to see the TLMC tourney and see games on all those maps.

TLDR: I don't share the map bashing attitude of Mereel and Co.

On November 10 2011 14:12 XRaDiiX wrote:


I'm not trying to be mean or anything but when i tested the TPW maps my framerate was significantly lower than playing normally on a Ladder map.
Sorry TPW Your maps are beautiful but my computer lagged like 15 fps on them only 30fps and above is acceptable....
I'm not sure what made the maps so laggy; i know my computers not the best and i play on low Graphics but my game never lags like that.
I'm hoping TPW can fix the Lag issue because their maps overall are really; well-done maps.

On November 10 2011 18:36 Plexa wrote:
Updated picture of Haven. Rumour has it that monitor is going to revert daggoth back to korhal.