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Sachar Nabai
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden56 Posts
May 13 2011 20:58 GMT
#2681
Someone has probably already asked and\or answered this but seeing that there are over 130 pages of replies im gonna do the lazy thing and just ask... is there any AI you can play vs? I would absolutely love to play this but without any AI I just dont see any long term play for me personally at least. I never really got into playing Broodwar vs people so without the large player pool and matchmaking of the normal SCII play I dont think I could find a way to actually play this for more then a couple of games without AI.

Absolutely love the idea though, with or without AI, and the actual result looks really, really good.
"He runs and runs and runs. And when he's exhausted himself, he returns to me, puts his head in my lap and asks me to help him find a way to die."
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 13 2011 21:28 GMT
#2682
theres no ai atm
im trying to adapt blizzards ai to work but im no programmer so at best if i ever finish it, it will still be pretty bad.
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Sachar Nabai
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden56 Posts
May 13 2011 21:31 GMT
#2683
On May 14 2011 06:28 MavercK wrote:
theres no ai atm
im trying to adapt blizzards ai to work but im no programmer so at best if i ever finish it, it will still be pretty bad.


Really cool that you actually answer yourself

An AI that just macros and 1A:s into your base would do just fine but I understand that you might have other priorities.

Thanks for the quick response and good luck.
"He runs and runs and runs. And when he's exhausted himself, he returns to me, puts his head in my lap and asks me to help him find a way to die."
lluke9
Profile Joined January 2011
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 15:37:15
May 14 2011 15:36 GMT
#2684
They can bring back all the old units, but they can't bring my adorable vulture micro back

But really, thanks for this, great work!
Who always done what with is although people nihilism of doom.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 14 2011 17:53 GMT
#2685
On May 15 2011 00:36 lluke9 wrote:
They can bring back all the old units, but they can't bring my adorable vulture micro back

But really, thanks for this, great work!

Vulture micro is in the game , but it's hard to do with bnet latency..
VoS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States30 Posts
May 14 2011 19:17 GMT
#2686
Ok. This might not be worth it, but I have noticed by looking thru match histories that there is actually quite a few games played on sc2bw every day. The games are spread out over about ten maps however and so sc2bw stays about 8 pages back in the popularity. But I think we could easily get to page 2 if we all agreed to play a single map.

Say FS? Maybe there should be a poll.

This might be annoying for us but i think it might help out Maverck a lot. What do ya think folks?
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 14 2011 22:41 GMT
#2687
On May 15 2011 04:17 VoS wrote:
Ok. This might not be worth it, but I have noticed by looking thru match histories that there is actually quite a few games played on sc2bw every day. The games are spread out over about ten maps however and so sc2bw stays about 8 pages back in the popularity. But I think we could easily get to page 2 if we all agreed to play a single map.

Say FS? Maybe there should be a poll.

This might be annoying for us but i think it might help out Maverck a lot. What do ya think folks?


the main issue is 101% of games are pre-organized. meaning people in chat channels or just with their friends. these are not public games and do not count towards the popularity meter

people need to press open to public before they launch the game

but either way. it's hopeless. custom map system is awful and theres no way to determine skill level/rank of your opponent before the game
if SC2BW got high on popularity i can't see many people enjoying it since it'll just end up being one sided stomps every single game.

everything about the custom map system works against me on this issue. i have no solution, but i welcome everyone to give it a shot anyway.
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TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1979 Posts
May 14 2011 23:33 GMT
#2688
well i found a solution
deinstall sc2 and play bw again...
the cg system is too sucky sry

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Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
May 15 2011 01:25 GMT
#2689
I like the map select system, but I don't see a lot of people following through. I will try to remember to open the map to public in order to boost the popularity though.

Why not organize some KOTHs? That could boost the popularity a bit and would be fun. Just pick a day of the week and time.
What does it matter how I loose it?
VoS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 07:31:55
May 15 2011 02:47 GMT
#2690
On May 15 2011 10:25 Percutio wrote:
Why not organize some KOTHs? That could boost the popularity a bit and would be fun. Just pick a day of the week and time.


I like this idea. I won't be able to participate but I would love to see this happen.

On May 15 2011 MavercK wrote:
people need to press open to public before they launch the game


Please please please put this in the OP I had no idea. Thx.

On May 15 2011 MavercK wrote:
if SC2BW got high on popularity i can't see many people enjoying it since it'll just end up being one sided stomps every single game.

I'm not certain about this. I think your in game ranking system will help in the long run. (Though I do hope we can upgrade it to something more like iccup's) In the shortrun most people can just exchange their old iccup rankings. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, I really want this project to succeed.

Edit: Grammar
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 15 2011 04:21 GMT
#2691
On May 15 2011 11:47 VoS wrote:
I'm not certain about this. I think your in game ranking system will help in the long run. (Though I do hope we can upgrade it to something more like iccup's) In the shortrun most people can just exchange their old iccup rankings. Maybe I'm being to optimistic, I really want this project to succeed.


problem is the ranking doesn't appear until you're already playing the map. theres no way to show it in the lobby.

i really want it to succeed too
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VoS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States30 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-15 23:28:01
May 15 2011 23:21 GMT
#2692
Found a tiny bug: Cannot cancel upgrades at the armory using the escape key.

Edit: Also, could the spider mines kill eggs in BW? I don't remember that happening. Hopefully, yes cause I know you're sick of spider mines
FreshVegetables
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland513 Posts
May 16 2011 01:06 GMT
#2693
On May 16 2011 08:21 VoS wrote:
Found a tiny bug: Cannot cancel upgrades at the armory using the escape key.

Edit: Also, could the spider mines kill eggs in BW? I don't remember that happening. Hopefully, yes cause I know you're sick of spider mines


Pretty sure spider mines could kill larvaes and eggs.
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VoS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States30 Posts
May 16 2011 04:22 GMT
#2694
On May 16 2011 10:06 FreshVegetables wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 08:21 VoS wrote:
Found a tiny bug: Cannot cancel upgrades at the armory using the escape key.

Edit: Also, could the spider mines kill eggs in BW? I don't remember that happening. Hopefully, yes cause I know you're sick of spider mines


Pretty sure spider mines could kill larvaes and eggs.


Oh that's awesome. In that case then, eventually the larvae will need to be spread out because I planted two mines and it took out 3 eggs that were clumped together iirc.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-16 06:36:51
May 16 2011 06:35 GMT
#2695
You need to use the BW mechanic settings for it to be balanced, Mutalisks would be pretty imbalanced without the no-limit selection cap. Zerg is most favored with the new settings, on how they have to manage the drones with the one way rally and all their hatcheries are split up.

With BW settings, this is a great map! Keep up the good work! Play this with my friends all the time!
Try making one on a decent StarCraft 2 map, like Metalopolis (but increase the distances?) or Tal' Darim, making one map from SC2 wouldn't hurt =D
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MusiK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States302 Posts
May 16 2011 07:07 GMT
#2696
this is so cool. hope tournies use it
BOOM!!! ~ Tasteless
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
May 17 2011 07:07 GMT
#2697
Bro have you seen this?

http://www.playxp.com/sc2/forum/view.php?article_id=2766172
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=223889

Any chance you could put this into the mod?
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 17 2011 07:18 GMT
#2698
looks awesome

too bad there doesn't appear to be a link or any information at all on how it was done
Brood War Remake - SC2BW - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
serojja
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 08:07:47
May 17 2011 08:07 GMT
#2699
Hi! This is so cool, thank you!
The only thing I would like to ask is: are all these units used in this mode that are missing in SC2 such as dragoons, guardians, corsairs, arbiters etc. already designed and present in SC2 database? I mean if these units are already designed can we suggest that they will be added to the "final cut" of SC2?
Because I really think that in the end we will have BroodWar + a lot of new units * new mechanics and Blizzard just started WoL from the majority of new units and only later they will add "known" units to the game to complete it.
MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
May 17 2011 08:13 GMT
#2700
On May 17 2011 17:07 7erojananda wrote:
Hi! This is so cool, thank you!
The only thing I would like to ask is: are all these units used in this mode that are missing in SC2 such as dragoons, guardians, corsairs, arbiters etc. already designed and present in SC2 database? I mean if these units are already designed can we suggest that they will be added to the "final cut" of SC2?
Because I really think that in the end we will have BroodWar + a lot of new units * new mechanics and Blizzard just started WoL from the majority of new units and only later they will add "known" units to the game to complete it.


no
blizzard said all sc1 units would be in the editor but they are not.
the only ones are the WoL units and lurkers/scourge
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