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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 03 2010 10:09 GMT
#41
So far my favourite completely new Map I've seen (favourite Map overall would be fighting spirit) ^^'

I really like how far the bases are apart, so you can't abuse early rushes that easily, with the Map being only 2-player and all...

I have some Problems with the Map though:

- The biggest Issue I have with this Map is the destructable rock near the Natural. Those are so easily abusable by VoidRays, who can just charge up on them and then attack the Natural. There shouldn't be a Destructable rock near any expansion and certainly not near the Main or Natural.
---> I'd recommend putting Minerals there which could be mined out by the opponent to create a new path into the main, like on Destination in Broodwar.

- Another thing that's kinda imbalanced is the great distance between Main and Natural: it's gonna be pretty hard for Zerg to connect the bases with creep. This fact and the destructable rocks make this Map a paradise for Voidrays.

- I also think the Natural is a bit too wide open - maybe reduce the space above/beneath the Geysir's a bit?

But besides that, I really like this Map! Good Job!
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Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 06 2010 16:11 GMT
#42
On September 03 2010 19:09 kickinhead wrote:
So far my favourite completely new Map I've seen (favourite Map overall would be fighting spirit) ^^'

I really like how far the bases are apart, so you can't abuse early rushes that easily, with the Map being only 2-player and all...

I have some Problems with the Map though:

- The biggest Issue I have with this Map is the destructable rock near the Natural. Those are so easily abusable by VoidRays, who can just charge up on them and then attack the Natural. There shouldn't be a Destructable rock near any expansion and certainly not near the Main or Natural.
---> I'd recommend putting Minerals there which could be mined out by the opponent to create a new path into the main, like on Destination in Broodwar.

- Another thing that's kinda imbalanced is the great distance between Main and Natural: it's gonna be pretty hard for Zerg to connect the bases with creep. This fact and the destructable rocks make this Map a paradise for Voidrays.

- I also think the Natural is a bit too wide open - maybe reduce the space above/beneath the Geysir's a bit?

But besides that, I really like this Map! Good Job!


Hey, i suspect your talking about River Point?

In any case, your point about the rocks next to the nat is indeed valid. I too would like a blocker there that does not necessarily allow for void ray charging.

As far as the distance from main to nat, i have thought about moving the main up a tile set, however, the close 3rd is a significant component in favor of zerg play.

Also, i like the mineral blocking idea, in order for an enemy to break it they would need to ull workers off their lines... interesting idea.
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 06 2010 18:39 GMT
#43
With the day/night cycle, will that cause lagging issues? I cannot play on Devotion because of lag even on lowest settings because of its fancy lighting effects.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 06 2010 18:42 GMT
#44
devotion is from prodig, not konicki
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 06 2010 19:30 GMT
#45
On September 07 2010 03:42 Superouman wrote:
devotion is from prodig, not konicki


I know, but my comp is shit and lags when playing on that map as well and was wondering if the day/night cycle would cause the same problem.
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
September 06 2010 19:45 GMT
#46
On September 07 2010 04:30 Antares777 wrote:
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On September 07 2010 03:42 Superouman wrote:
devotion is from prodig, not konicki


I know, but my comp is shit and lags when playing on that map as well and was wondering if the day/night cycle would cause the same problem.

There's no day/night cycle on devotion and the lighting effects are about as minimal as I can get them on a night setting. I'm still trying to determine the reason why the map performs so badly for people with slower machines but I'm not getting very far :/
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Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 06 2010 20:59 GMT
#47
I am getting the feeling that trees are culpable.. im still at a loss for this however as well.
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
September 06 2010 22:00 GMT
#48
On September 07 2010 05:59 konicki wrote:
I am getting the feeling that trees are culpable.. im still at a loss for this however as well.

I'd agree, but there are more trees and foliage in general on Valhalla and it doesn't perform this bad. I've tried eliminating all sorts of things and I still haven't been able to isolate it :<
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
September 06 2010 23:05 GMT
#49
On July 30 2010 03:28 konicki wrote:
Uros Island
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Zerg favored to the extreme.
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 07 2010 00:02 GMT
#50
I just played on River Point vs my bro.

LAG.

:'(
I need a better computer.
Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 07 2010 02:13 GMT
#51
On September 07 2010 08:05 RoieTRS wrote:
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On July 30 2010 03:28 konicki wrote:
Uros Island
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[image loading]



Zerg favored to the extreme.


Your certainly welcome to say that, but if you are going to, id ask that you at least offer some explanation as to why you think so.
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Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#52
On September 07 2010 09:02 Antares777 wrote:
I just played on River Point vs my bro.

LAG.

:'(
I need a better computer.


Well.. it seems this is happening with a lot of custom melee maps. It seems odd, but there are certain doodads that are simply not usable at this point and though it may be unusual, blizzard seems to have been drawing from a doodad pool similiar to the pre-launch pool. Many of the added doodads on launch do not appear in blizz maps.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
September 08 2010 05:48 GMT
#53
Alot of these maps look cool, but honestly there is too much crap in them. My computer averages like 12-15 less FPS on these maps than normal Blizz maps.
Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 08 2010 14:06 GMT
#54
On September 08 2010 14:48 DannyJ wrote:
Alot of these maps look cool, but honestly there is too much crap in them. My computer averages like 12-15 less FPS on these maps than normal Blizz maps.


I agree, a middle ground needs to be found.

This week, I am going through eliminating un-needed doodads that might be culpable for increased pressure peoples computers causing the slowdown.
"Do yourself a favor, and don't listen to me."
Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
September 08 2010 15:43 GMT
#55
Konicki the new day and night cycles on river point look amazing!!!

We really got to play on that map again sometime
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 08 2010 20:02 GMT
#56
On September 08 2010 23:06 konicki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 14:48 DannyJ wrote:
Alot of these maps look cool, but honestly there is too much crap in them. My computer averages like 12-15 less FPS on these maps than normal Blizz maps.


I agree, a middle ground needs to be found.

This week, I am going through eliminating un-needed doodads that might be culpable for increased pressure peoples computers causing the slowdown.


Thanks.
Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
September 10 2010 18:44 GMT
#57
Map Added to "Current Projects"

[m] Sungsu Crossing
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
September 10 2010 18:56 GMT
#58
I like the idea of having the naturals on a high ground ridge that is a straight path to each other on Sungsu Crossing. I also like where the XWTs are placed and how the island expansions are not very close to the mains so that Terran cannot fe there.

Nice job!
mrd33ds
Profile Joined August 2010
Djibouti30 Posts
September 10 2010 19:25 GMT
#59
Anyone know how to get these maps to play in SC2ALLin1?
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WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
September 10 2010 20:22 GMT
#60
These maps are fantastic :D Can we please get some of them on the SEA region!
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