EPTPower Rank 12/14/2008 - Page 13
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On December 19 2008 12:45 AnOth3rDAy wrote: About the pimpest play though, i dont really think it can count as one since its pretty known how to do that... i bet all the korean progamers would attemt something like that in that given situation since its the only way to get the stasis units away-- Then someone would have by now mind is the only one to use this maneuver so effectively and make it actually have a huge impact on the game. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 19 2008 11:52 Kuja900 wrote: Yes quite a few examples actually especially his game against Stats (ktf newcomer). Its definetly worth a watch Mind made a maneuver that in my opinion and a lot of other peoples opinion is a surefire pimpest play and overall the game was great. He also has some starpower wins over players like free, hwasin and tvt beast fantasy. He is currently on a 4 game streak after an oddball loss to sangho which id hawk up to a fluke. Description of the pimpest play: + Show Spoiler + Stats did a recall into mines main on top of his factories, losing a lot of goons to mines as well. He then proceeds to do damage and stasis units on minds ramp so he cant reinforce with the pack of vultures he had behind the tanks. He than sends his scvs from his natural expansion to mine minerals in the main base and then stopped them on the ramp in between the stasised tanks. This actually moved the stasised units out of the way for vultures to get up the ramp, a real HOLYSHITOMFG moment. While im sure this maneuver has been theory crafted before never has it been used so effectively to the point of even saving the game. The game overall is amazing and once again i strongly recommend giving it a view. I mean people are even going so far to say as the best tvp game of 2008. I missed that game but the thing you described is very very common  Not common in that it happens a lot, because units don't get stasised on your ramp very often, but every Terran knows that trick for dislodging them | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
On December 19 2008 12:45 AnOth3rDAy wrote: About the pimpest play though, i dont really think it can count as one since its pretty known how to do that... i bet all the korean progamers would attemt something like that in that given situation since its the only way to get the stasis units away-- I'm pretty sure all the progamers knew that rax's could float but Boxer's 4Rax Float is still uberly pimp. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On December 19 2008 12:51 Avidkeystamper wrote: I'm pretty sure all the progamers knew that rax's could float but Boxer's 4Rax Float is still uberly pimp. not the same thing dude... | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
K, but the thing is it was vital to the outcome of the game as well as brilliantly executed. It's never been done in such a glamorous fashion, and it's mind-blowing to witness. | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On December 19 2008 12:51 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: I missed that game but the thing you described is very very common Not common in that it happens a lot, because units don't get stasised on your ramp very often, but every Terran knows that trick for dislodging them Yeah but the fact that it saved the game for him, ive never seen it used with such effectiveness even though i have seen it done before. But thats a side note im not basing my reasoning for his power rank candidacy on that, the overall mind v stats game was just amazing and mind is kickn ass and taking names. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 19 2008 13:33 Kuja900 wrote: Yeah but the fact that it saved the game for him, ive never seen it used with such effectiveness even though i have seen it done before. But thats a side note im not basing my reasoning for his power rank candidacy on that, the overall mind v stats game was just amazing and mind is kickn ass and taking names. i'll watch the games i've missed tomorrow and let you know what I think | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On December 19 2008 12:45 AnOth3rDAy wrote: About the pimpest play though, i dont really think it can count as one since its pretty known how to do that... i bet all the korean progamers would attemt something like that in that given situation since its the only way to get the stasis units away-- a good ammount of the previous pimpest plays were tricks that were already known. Destroying plagued vessels with a single muta. It was known, when a guy sucseeded in killing 8, that was a pimpest play. EMPing the defilers, a known option, in a game where those EMPs were the deciding factor and were used in clutch situations was a pimpest play. And there are a whole lot of them like countering with drones+lings when you're rushed etc. yes, even this season i saw that move, but with not that huge effect on the outcome. Remember Stats was way ahead, if he does considerable dmg with his recall the game is over. . That's why is say Mind's move was a pimpest play, like Jangbi's storms against nada gonna be pimpest play too, even though mass storms are used in every Protoss mu. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 19 2008 15:23 Geo.Rion wrote: a good ammount of the previous pimpest plays were tricks that were already known. Destroying plagued vessels with a single muta. It was known, when a guy sucseeded in killing 8, that was a pimpest play. EMPing the defilers, a known option, in a game where those EMPs were the deciding factor and were used in clutch situations was a pimpest play. And there are a whole lot of them like countering with drones+lings when you're rushed etc. yes, even this season i saw that move, but with not that huge effect on the outcome. Remember Stats was way ahead, if he does considerable dmg with his recall the game is over. . That's why is say Mind's move was a pimpest play, like Jangbi's storms against nada gonna be pimpest play too, even though mass storms are used in every Protoss mu. actually a pimpest play kind of requires some sort of innovation, or something that players don't normally do 100% of pro terrans will unblock their ramp with scvs in mind's situation, it just doesn't come up very often it's a smart move, but it's also something that people would freak out about if he didn't do. "what the fuck mind you chobo why didnt you do this". it's not special, certainly not pimpest play material | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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VioleTAK
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On December 19 2008 15:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: actually a pimpest play kind of requires some sort of innovation, or something that players don't normally do 100% of pro terrans will unblock their ramp with scvs in mind's situation, it just doesn't come up very often it's a smart move, but it's also something that people would freak out about if he didn't do. "what the fuck mind you chobo why didnt you do this". it's not special, certainly not pimpest play material I agree that its not that special , but Mind did it momentarily thats what makes it a good play , but not pimpest . Other terrans probably will waste 2 minutes before it sinks in their head what has happent . If you watch FBH vs Much on othello in MSL again , you can see how clueless was FBH in that situation ( and every situation vs decent toss ) , but Mind did it pretty quick like its a regular thing to him . | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On December 20 2008 03:09 raga4ka wrote: I agree that its not that special , but Mind did it momentarily thats what makes it a good play , but not pimpest . Other terrans probably will waste 2 minutes before it sinks in their head what has happent . If you watch FBH vs Much on othello in MSL again , you can see how clueless was FBH in that situation ( and every situation vs decent toss ) , but Mind did it pretty quick like its a regular thing to him . i'm sure it's gonna be ranked as a pimpest play at the end of the year. btw who makes those? | ||
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TarsTarkas
United States169 Posts
And yes, Mind is awesome. He is capable of both winning and loosing against any player, even the very best. He just needs to ditch that 'capable of loosing' part. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
He got stasis rushed and lost key ground. He lost his army numerous times because he was caught off guard. Lost like 7 tanks and Toss had a huge remaining army. However, Mind's impromptu adaptations to the game and on the moment clutch stasis break + Recall D + Vulture sneak during attacks + etc etc. He opened terribly and got caught off guard but played sublime and clutched a win. That was the Mind that I remember, tight rope walker. And ofc, his trademark 2 vultures here and there ~_~ It's so cool. I really love his TvP. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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Phradamon
Romania191 Posts
What gives you the power to tell me to shup up? This is not a dictatorial thread. Or is it? You dont like what i post? Do the math and see Sea lost to worsty players than Pusan or Leta and we'll talk. I will call this pathetic untill you stop calling all the people in this topic that does not agree with you idiots or stupids. Pathetic! | ||
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Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
On December 20 2008 06:37 Phradamon wrote: @FS What gives you the power to tell me to shup up? This is not a dictatorial thread. Or is it? You dont like what i post? Do the math and see Sea lost to worsty players than Pusan or Leta and we'll talk. I will call this pathetic untill you stop calling all the people in this topic that does not agree with you idiots or stupids. Pathetic! LMAO | ||
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TarsTarkas
United States169 Posts
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