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ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
October 18 2008 22:11 GMT
#101
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 19 2008 00:13 GMT
#102
On October 19 2008 06:59 Darth Peter wrote:
Okay,you said the PR is about monthly performance,and thereby nobody cares,if Jaedong did beat Stork,it doesn't mean,he will beat him again. I can accept this. But if this is about monthly performance,then,well,Best didn't show any kind of weakness whatsoever. Perhaps he showed in the pasy. But here we are again. This is a monthly PR. No matter,I'm obviously based on bias,but I hope Best wins,and there will be no arguments,that Best is the better player.

K..but neither did Stork? We all get that you love BeSt, what's your point?
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
October 19 2008 05:03 GMT
#103
Yeah,neither did Stork,so putting him higher this month is justified. I just said this because there started to be sepculatins about who is>than who in different matches,and I just had to say my opinion,that's all.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 06:39:13
October 19 2008 06:38 GMT
#104
On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.


I wouldn`t be so sure...
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 09:43:46
October 19 2008 09:38 GMT
#105
On October 19 2008 09:13 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 06:59 Darth Peter wrote:
Okay,you said the PR is about monthly performance,and thereby nobody cares,if Jaedong did beat Stork,it doesn't mean,he will beat him again. I can accept this. But if this is about monthly performance,then,well,Best didn't show any kind of weakness whatsoever. Perhaps he showed in the pasy. But here we are again. This is a monthly PR. No matter,I'm obviously based on bias,but I hope Best wins,and there will be no arguments,that Best is the better player.

K..but neither did Stork? We all get that you love BeSt, what's your point?


it wasn't about Stork being weak against T by any means(or weaker than Best's), my only point is (and not only my) that Stork isnt superior PvT right now.
It's hard to comapre the two, cuz Best is relying on his groundforce-control backed up with excellent arbiter play in the late game, and of course godly macro.
Stork on the other hand overcame most of his opponents in early-mid game, taking more risk, like going for proxy-robo, dt rush or 2 base carrier. Generally relying more on the air, shuttle-micro, Carriers and the element of surprise. His streak is great, and i woundn't dare to say that it's undeserved, but non of his opponents was very good, at least against toss, maybe Forgg and Sea, but Sea is doing very bad, and Forgg's recent TvP is inferior to his other MUs.
Best's opponent werent S class either, i felt Midas was very strong in TvP, yet he failed, and FBH, well his TvP is excellent this month, but he lost to Best.

All in all, i think their PvT is even, or the difference is negligible. I can be convinced, give me some arguments, like Stork's play against X on the map X which favors T over P was unquestionable, while Best's play against X on a P friendly map wasnt untouchable, he barely won. Or something like that. Not "look at the TLPD".




EDIT: I know I'm bad, i just found this, ignore it, it's not an argument it just made me smile, it's not true, so dont post if you only want to point on this (I dont hate stork, I never hated any good toss player):
"My problem with Stork is that his latest games have absolutely nothing that would set him apart from every other Protoss out there. His series in the GSI final against Flash was solid, but every other game Stork has played recently is either a proxy something or a carrier rush" Fakesteve
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
October 19 2008 09:44 GMT
#106
Okay,we can't tell who's better. These are speculation. but in less than a week,we will find it out. I know there will be people telling that "no matter stork lost to best,he is still better vs t",but I don't care. Who wins the match should be above the other in the next power rank. We still have 5 days until that,and I am already hyped as hell about it. So let's just leave the question whos better and why,and why not,until then. I promise,if Stork wins,I'll stop bitching about him,and won't argue with the decisions anymore.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 19 2008 17:04 GMT
#107
I see what you guys are saying, but Stork's PvT is not proxy or carrier rush. He can do whatever he wants and rape Terrans. Check out his latest PvTs please. (Exception of vs forGG)
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 20 2008 03:18 GMT
#108
4 days people. In 4 days the picture is going to be completely clear.

Unless...

Free beats Jaedong, Best beats Stork, and Stork beats ForGG. Then the top 3 are going to be an absolute bitch to sort out. PL performance is going to be important than ever before in such case.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 20 2008 04:11 GMT
#109
On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.
stork will never win anything, its physiologically in his head. He will take a huge 2-0 lead against fantasy, a huge game 3 lead, then collapse and lose the rest of the games. He-will-never-win-anything. Just like yellow.

Best on the other hand, has equal pvt to stork, and no such "im doomed to 2nd place" mentality. He will not choke.
Can you dig it?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 20 2008 04:26 GMT
#110
Stork actually chokes before ever winning 2 games, he doesn't come that close, except vs Bisu MSL Finals. He seems to have gotten progressively worse in finals.
2-3 Bisu
1-3 Jaedong
0-3 Flash.
Math says he can't make the finals since he can't go -1-3.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 20 2008 05:48 GMT
#111
On October 20 2008 13:11 ScarFace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.
stork will never win anything, its physiologically in his head. He will take a huge 2-0 lead against fantasy, a huge game 3 lead, then collapse and lose the rest of the games. He-will-never-win-anything. Just like yellow.

Best on the other hand, has equal pvt to stork, and no such "im doomed to 2nd place" mentality. He will not choke.

lol based on what? his awesome 0-3 loss against July?
At least Stork has a lot of finals experience.

Not that it will matter. Stork will rape the shit out of BeSt
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 20 2008 08:03 GMT
#112
On October 20 2008 02:04 OneOther wrote:
I see what you guys are saying, but Stork's PvT is not proxy or carrier rush. He can do whatever he wants and rape Terrans. Check out his latest PvTs please. (Exception of vs forGG)


I agree Stork is the man when it comes to PvT and PvP .
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
October 20 2008 09:16 GMT
#113
FBH still sucks
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 20 2008 11:01 GMT
#114
I think you should save the top spot for the real deal next month !!!

Savior is comeing back and he is comeing hard and deadly . Hasn't lost a game since blizzcon and if we count does games he is an some crazy around 15 games winning strick with PL and GSL's games .
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
October 20 2008 11:12 GMT
#115
Boxer for the top spot!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
October 20 2008 12:06 GMT
#116
This is Storks "back from his slump" time. He isnt doomed for 2nd anymore. He will win!
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
October 20 2008 16:58 GMT
#117
On October 20 2008 13:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Stork actually chokes before ever winning 2 games, he doesn't come that close, except vs Bisu MSL Finals. He seems to have gotten progressively worse in finals.
2-3 Bisu
1-3 Jaedong
0-3 Flash.
Math says he can't make the finals since he can't go -1-3.


Stork went 2-3 in the GOMTV Invitational finals vs Flash
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 20 2008 17:13 GMT
#118
On October 20 2008 14:48 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 13:11 ScarFace wrote:
On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.
stork will never win anything, its physiologically in his head. He will take a huge 2-0 lead against fantasy, a huge game 3 lead, then collapse and lose the rest of the games. He-will-never-win-anything. Just like yellow.

Best on the other hand, has equal pvt to stork, and no such "im doomed to 2nd place" mentality. He will not choke.

lol based on what? his awesome 0-3 loss against July?
At least Stork has a lot of finals experience.

Not that it will matter. Stork will rape the shit out of BeSt


unlikely
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 20 2008 18:28 GMT
#119
On October 21 2008 01:58 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2008 13:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Stork actually chokes before ever winning 2 games, he doesn't come that close, except vs Bisu MSL Finals. He seems to have gotten progressively worse in finals.
2-3 Bisu
1-3 Jaedong
0-3 Flash.
Math says he can't make the finals since he can't go -1-3.


Stork went 2-3 in the GOMTV Invitational finals vs Flash


He was talking about the OSL
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
October 20 2008 20:40 GMT
#120
Best is by far one of the best toss players ever! I really loved the game where he mopped the flr w/ a chobo progamer. My gosh i wish my unit production matched that of his... he literally just drowns his opponents in a wave of toss units...

it's like a friggin relentless sea of toss where waves of lots, goons, reavers, ht, dt, etc come crashing down on u till u break...

FBH's new game tactic is very interesting and his games not his ceremonies r actually providing some entertainment. He finally has something to bak his ceremonies with ^^

ugh... the terrans need to reel it in... there r so many of them yet they r in the bottom halves
ggyo...
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