Power Rank 10/15/2008

On October 15 2008 08:57 Try wrote:
Where's "I Will Destroy Everyone" sAviOr? I would put FBH much higher though; he's been tearing through PL and looked really good against Much and the other toss he played (right ahead of Hwasin)

On October 15 2008 08:57 Try wrote:
Where's "I Will Destroy Everyone" sAviOr? I would put FBH much higher though; he's been tearing through PL and looked really good against Much and the other toss he played (right ahead of Hwasin)

On October 15 2008 09:29 mikeymoo wrote:
What about your thoughts on close but no cigar?
Thanks for the analysis. I don't have much to comment on, as this is pretty much what my list would've looked like. No surprises.

On October 15 2008 09:39 alphafuzard wrote:
fuck yeah!
my boy fantasy is turnin' heads
fantasy for osl golddddd!!!
heard it here first

On October 15 2008 09:36 Athos wrote:
I feel that type-B deserves a close but no cigar. Before last month I had no idea who he was, and now he's tearing terrans apart in the MSL. He also brought down stork in proleague. This guy has real potential.


EDIT: I just realized, you completely forgot about kal.

On October 15 2008 11:03 Februarys wrote:
Sweet, I agree with #1, #2, #3

Bisu and FBH have been looking great lately but so has TheZerg. Stork is on fire but I have a feeling he will take home another silver medal. I have great hopes for JD, I feel like his ZvT is improving and thus why we see all these low level Terrans cheese rush him.

Savior has owned up Blizzcon, does that go into his record?

I hope Flash starts getting his game up again so we can see some epic ZvT Jaedong vs Flash again

On October 15 2008 11:25 TheTyranid wrote:
OneOther PLEASE make sure the next PR comes on time.

Btw why is Hwasin so high.

On October 15 2008 14:50 ThePhan2m wrote:
I'm a huge Fantasy fan, but to rank him 4th I think is too high. His preformance has been great, but after I saw his recent losses, It made me doubt. And he is yet to be tested against the best.
Also, Bisus' play has been outstanding I think. I would have put him one rank up, above Hwasin!

But great power rank anyhow!!

The greatest PvP sets in history will come. I dont play toss, but I sooo love
PvP and to watch my to favorite toss players. Reavers make my heart jump double every time they fire! ^^ You have no idea how much im looking forward to october 24!!! :D If Stork wins Best, he will defenetly win OSL, No question about it!! Neither GGplay or Fantasy can take down his confidence or his destiny of not beeing the 2nd Yellow.

On October 15 2008 20:39 Ichigo1234551 wrote:
Savior didnt lose a single match in the Blizzard Invitation. Shouldnt you put him up like #10 or something for his koolness?

On October 15 2008 08:47 OneOther wrote:
close but no cigar
Kal - Kal was pretty damn close, but his poor PL results kept him out of the PR.

Iris - Long time no see, Iris. Welcome back to MSL. If he keeps up this pace he will be in PR in no time

Leta - He was sooo hot in the Proleague Playoffs/Finals, but has slowed down a bit since then. Don't get me wrong, he's still very good. Although he didn't pass his MSL group, he is playing great in PL.

Much - Grandpa Toss sadly did not make the MSL RO16, he is playing pretty well in PL. Just not enough to earn himself a spot in this month's PR.

Luxury - Out of both leagues, mediocre performance in PL. I wanna see more from Lux.
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Bottom four were very hard to rank. Hwasin has been performing better than Bisu in PL, but Bisu DID get himself farther in OSL. I think Hwasin and Bisu are pretty much interchangeable in terms of rankings.

Feel free to discuss.

On October 15 2008 11:06 OneOther wrote:

Imo TheZerg just hasn't shown enough. He has looked pretty good at times in Incruit OSL, but he hasn't exactly gotten anywhere. He should definitely be on the PR if he keeps up his performance for the upcoming weeks

On October 15 2008 20:58 Jaeden wrote:


if it were for coolness , why just #10? he should definitely be #1!

On October 15 2008 21:21 Geo.Rion wrote:


In MY opinion:

Forgg should be higher, he didn't play a lot, but he shown good results in those few games, so nothing indicates to drop ranks so quickly. We should wait until he actually loses some games.

Type-b deserves a rank(or at least a CBNC) he 2-0d his MSL group, and took down Stork in an ace match.
Same goes for Jangbi! 2-0 in MSL, good results in PL. He's good, if hwasin is in the top 10 Jangbi should be too.
Yarnc was doing well recently, a win against JD in PL, and advancing in the MSL. It should be enough for a CNBC if Iris, luxury and Much got one, even though this 3 are better in general recently they aren't doing better than fake Yellow.

I find it a bit strange that all 4 OSL semifinalists are in top 5, even though some of their MUs are inconsistent or untested (GGplay and fantasy)

I would put flash on 8th-10th, but 6th place isn't a very high one either, so not that big difference, altough i feel that he s really worse than some other players who did not get the talent he has. A player with capacity to own, playing this badly... it really requires some sort of "punishment"

On October 15 2008 09:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


hell no sucker i've been saying "fantasy is going to win OSL" since the round of 16

in fact i've posted that exact line like six times!

On October 16 2008 07:15 ScarFace wrote:
yeah bisu should be seven, jangbi should be ten [fbh 9, everyone up a slot basically]

On October 16 2008 07:51 OneOther wrote:

who would you take out to put in Jangbi
edit: oh, hwasin? Imo Hwasin has been performing better than Jangbi

On October 15 2008 09:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:


hell no sucker i've been saying "fantasy is going to win OSL" since the round of 16

in fact i've posted that exact line like six times!

On October 16 2008 13:09 Nick_54 wrote:


Ever since he helped knock Sea out, right?

On October 16 2008 17:43 Ver wrote:
Flash is hardly choking he's just lost his old iloveoov level of intelligence and mindset. Still shows smart play now and then but overall is a shadow of the old self and is a mindless robot terran more or less. Die robotic stupid flash so iloveoov's successor can be reborn again!

Top 4 look good but the rest are shaky.

Hwasin is 4-0 in october, although only fantasy is a notable win and his last games before that was getting trounced 3-0 by thezerg in his best matchup. Seems illogical to have him anywhere but 9/10.

While hwasin may be overly high, forgg on the other hand has to be more forgotten than sync. He shows incredible play and thinking in winning an msl and has went 16-7 against the hardest possible competition (minus shark) since he elevated his game and took out flash. Plus his main losses (to much/stork) were all on the same day where he had to play eight games! And his ranking goes 1/6/9. What's up with this?

A consistent top 5 is at least deserved. This month jd/stork/best were all better choices and fantasy is debatable. However ggplay has shown exactly 1 great game (game 1 vs flash), after getting a very easy second versus bad competition and getting horribly owned by Best. The other games versus flash were not particularly notable; game 2 wasn't that much better than july's attempt and game 3 while his mass ling strat was a good followup to a bad start he basically lucked his way out with that mine killing 3 vults. While I would like to be proven wrong, so far he has shown only a glimpse of Daum ggplay in his game 1 vs Flash in solving what Jaedong could not.

Jangbi as mentioned has been doing very nicely. He may look goofy but 10-0 pvz streak for a guy who's known for pvt makes him look not too shabby. Admittedly none of them are particularly good v P or at all, but he is also 4-0 overall since losing 1-2 to Light two months ago. Definitely should be up there over Hwasin or FBH.

On October 16 2008 20:27 SynC[gm] wrote:
Even if you hate Stork[gm] so badly, whether he just is in an arrogant team or because he's just so damn ugly, you gotta admit he's good.

On October 18 2008 22:15 Plexa wrote:
FBH swapped with Bisu and Best swapped with Stork would make me happy

On October 18 2008 23:35 ]343[ wrote:
stork is probably better vT and vZ (best epic failed vs keke, but I guess maybe that was "just" poor shuttle control)

best is better vP

so I think stork's placement is ok right now, but when (if?) best beats him, people will all be like "omg!!11! stork < best" and best will rise, even if his v(not-P) isn't as good as stork's (although I must admit best's PvT is good, but not as good as stork's ;o)

On October 19 2008 00:45 Geo.Rion wrote:


why do you say Stork is better vT? You should give some arguments, i did not see Best losing to T, or even getting in the danger of losing in last months.

On October 19 2008 00:45 Geo.Rion wrote:


why do you say Stork is better vT? You should give some arguments, i did not see Best losing to T, or even getting in the danger of losing in last months. He didnt need cheese, or failed cheese attempts by opponents, to make this

and vZ, their weakest MU, both are able to win against good zergs, or loose against less memorable zergs. Maybe a loss against type b sound less bad than a loss against Keke, but I really enjoyed the Best vs Keke, awesome game, Best didn't look bad at all, at least to me.

so back up your statements, i m really curios (no irony)

On October 19 2008 06:59 Darth Peter wrote:
Okay,you said the PR is about monthly performance,and thereby nobody cares,if Jaedong did beat Stork,it doesn't mean,he will beat him again. I can accept this. But if this is about monthly performance,then,well,Best didn't show any kind of weakness whatsoever. Perhaps he showed in the pasy. But here we are again. This is a monthly PR. No matter,I'm obviously based on bias,but I hope Best wins,and there will be no arguments,that Best is the better player.

On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.

On October 19 2008 09:13 OneOther wrote:

K..but neither did Stork? We all get that you love BeSt, what's your point?

On October 19 2008 07:11 ThePhan2m wrote:
If Best slumps and looses his winning streak vs tosses against Stork, there is no doubt in my mind, that Stork will CRUSH Fantasy 3-0. If Best wins however, Fantasy will win vs Best.

On October 20 2008 13:11 ScarFace wrote:
stork will never win anything, its physiologically in his head. He will take a huge 2-0 lead against fantasy, a huge game 3 lead, then collapse and lose the rest of the games. He-will-never-win-anything. Just like yellow.

Best on the other hand, has equal pvt to stork, and no such "im doomed to 2nd place" mentality. He will not choke.

On October 20 2008 02:04 OneOther wrote:
I see what you guys are saying, but Stork's PvT is not proxy or carrier rush. He can do whatever he wants and rape Terrans. Check out his latest PvTs please. (Exception of vs forGG)

On October 20 2008 14:48 OneOther wrote:

lol based on what? his awesome 0-3 loss against July?
At least Stork has a lot of finals experience.

Not that it will matter. Stork will rape the shit out of BeSt

On October 21 2008 01:58 Little-Chimp wrote:


Stork went 2-3 in the GOMTV Invitational finals vs Flash

On October 20 2008 14:48 OneOther wrote:

lol based on what? his awesome 0-3 loss against July?
At least Stork has a lot of finals experience.

Not that it will matter. Stork will rape the shit out of BeSt

On October 21 2008 05:59 ScarFace wrote:
he lost 0-3 because his pvz is garbage, but he never choked. Not when he was down 0-2 to luxury, not when he was down to July, he still played to his fullest capacity [which due to it being a pvz, was not that high].

And we shall see in a few days...who is king of pvp.

On October 21 2008 07:25 OneOther wrote:

lol how do you tell the difference between chocking and sucking? chocking usually leads to sucking?

On October 21 2008 07:25 OneOther wrote:
stork has never chocked in semifinals either

On October 21 2008 07:25 OneOther wrote:

lol how do you tell the difference between chocking and sucking? chocking usually leads to sucking?

stork has never chocked in semifinals either

On October 21 2008 10:09 Sprite wrote:
I hope Stork wins because he is on fire right now, and i hope FBH only plays TvP to win MSL Would be pretty funny.

On October 20 2008 17:03 raga4ka wrote:


I agree Stork is the man when it comes to PvT and PvP .

On October 22 2008 06:51 VenetianSnares wrote:


Agree, he is on a 12 win streak against T!!

On October 23 2008 22:37 Polar_Bear wrote:
If Stork won 50 games in a row and JD lost 50 games in a row, would they put Stork above Jaedong?
well... maybe.
Even if Storks loses to Forgg and Best he has to be above Jaedong.
It was kind of lucky that JD had to face Free, not only for him, but also for the fans. At least there were some entertaining games to watch, not like Forgg vs. JD.
JD dropped 5 games to medium players last month, Stork dropped 5 games to medium players during the last 6 months.
Players who stand a chance vs. Stork in a bo3/bo5: Best, Bisu, Jaedong, (July)
Players who stand a chance vs. Jaedong in a bo3/bo5: free, Bisu, (Jangbi)... how many Terran's are there in Kespa top 100?

On October 23 2008 20:03 Darth Peter wrote:
Best's P v T=Stork's P v T. Everybody is talking about Storks P v T being much,better,than Best's, but Best hasn't shown any weakness in P v T either in the last two months,so I think they are equal.
Best's PvZ<Stork's P v Z. In this Mu,Stork is clearly better,but he cannot beat JD either,and the list of Zerg players dominating Best is still short,and I think except Jd or July,he can still beat any zerg in a bo series. Not to mention Storks's P v Z isn't the best either,losing for example to Type-b,who is great against T, but not so great against P.
And the P v P. I think Best's is better by far,but we will see that tomorrow. My point is,that no matter who wins tomorrow,he should definitely be no1 in the next PR,should it be Best or Stork.

On October 24 2008 14:19 Polar_Bear wrote:
@critical people: I've been following the scene since Grrrr... beat TheBoy in 2001 and I watched nearly all the games on Jon747's and nevake's account (and several 100s replays etc.), so I might actually know, what I'm talking about. Probably my point doesn't seem to be that obvious at the moment, so I'd like to explain it. I'm not a JD hater, in fact, I agree that he is one of the greatest players of all time (hard to say, but maybe #5 or s.th. like this). At the moment, Zerg is a little underrepresented, so he's a very important player as well (SC with only 2 races would be boring imo).
JD's micro is insane (especially Mutas vs. Z) and his games are also quite interesting to watch, cause he does creative things frequently (e.g. early borrow). The thing is, that after WCG Korea, Stork has been playing just much better than JD. He gets better results and plays far more convincing. Stork's play vs. mediocre players is extremely solid (imo mediocre means not kespa top 15, but not really bad), when he loses, it's almost always vs. other top players. JD's ZvT looks fucking shaky at the moment, watch his games vs. Frozean and gogo. And without participation in any important league, I don't see any reason for putting JD above Stork. It's obvious, that JD gets good results vs. Stork when he faces him directly, but that's not the point. Stork dominates players like forgg and JD gets dominated by them. Plz be true to yourself: Could you imagine free beating Stork in a bo3 at the moment? Right now, JD is in a slump, though his records are still pretty impressive. His PL wins vs. Flash and Best were just total failures by the opponents. Flash's 14 CC in TvZ was just nuts, and Best... well, it was his worst televised game. JD is still the 2nd best player in the world atm, but he has to recover to hold this or to get the top spot back. As a Bisu fan, I don't really like Stork, I just think, that people should give him the credit he deserves and his latest games were just great.
And just one word about free: He is good vs. Zerg, but the last time he beat the best Zerg player was in 2006. I might be wrong, but I don't consider him as a possible champion anytime soon. He has shown very good games recently, but I think Frozean or Bisu will be too much for him.

On October 25 2008 05:57 OneOther wrote:
Jaedong is getting demoted two spots

On October 25 2008 11:47 Felagund wrote:
1. Stork
2. Jaedong (fanboi yes)
3. BeSt
4. Bisu (interchangeable with #3 - Bisu is in the MSL, but BeST did get further in the OSL.)
5. free
6-10. Whoever.

Damn.

On October 26 2008 05:34 Februarys wrote:
I really hope FakeSteve does next month's PR rather than OneOther..We all know who is Stork's fanboy and biased toward JD

On October 26 2008 05:34 Februarys wrote:
I really hope FakeSteve does next month's PR rather than OneOther..We all know who is Stork's fanboy and biased toward JD

On October 26 2008 05:44 OneOther wrote:
Februarys never ceases posting shit that makes zero sense.

On October 26 2008 05:41 TheTyranid wrote:

Having Fakesteve do the PR won't stop Stork from being #1. And OneOther is not subjective in his ranking as you pointed out in this pre-edited post. This month's Power rank is very accurate. Also keep in mind that there was a legitimate argument for putting Stork at 1'st and and he would certainly be 1'st if this PR was not objective.

On October 26 2008 08:20 Februarys wrote:


I never disputed the fact of rankings of #1. I just pointed out that he seems very subjective from his posts and I'm glad you agree

On October 25 2008 18:09 OneOther wrote:

..Fantasy?

On October 26 2008 14:57 Felagund wrote:

Oh, forgot him. >.< I guess I'll agree with Polar_Bear about the 3-5. SKT (but I still stick with free #5, erm, #6.)

On October 26 2008 11:55 Paddington wrote:
Stork for #1, Jaedong #2. SKT 3-6, FBH, Jangbi and Free on PR.

On October 27 2008 01:45 OneOther wrote:
Stork's ripping apart ProLeague. Won his Gom match. Beat BeSt in PvP and is in the OSL finals. Beat forGG and is in the MSL Round of 8. Unless he plays awfully in the finals or something he's getting #1 no matter what. Even if he loses, who is gonna be placed above Stork? Nobody performed as well as he did.

On October 27 2008 01:45 OneOther wrote:
Stork's ripping apart ProLeague. Won his Gom match. Beat BeSt in PvP and is in the OSL finals. Beat forGG and is in the MSL Round of 8. Unless he plays awfully in the finals or something he's getting #1 no matter what. Even if he loses, who is gonna be placed above Stork? Nobody performed as well as he did.

On October 27 2008 01:45 OneOther wrote:
Stork's ripping apart ProLeague. Won his Gom match. Beat BeSt in PvP and is in the OSL finals. Beat forGG and is in the MSL Round of 8. Unless he plays awfully in the finals or something he's getting #1 no matter what. Even if he loses, who is gonna be placed above Stork? Nobody performed as well as he did.

On October 27 2008 06:08 Polar_Bear wrote:
Before the has OSL started I wrote Stork would win it and right now there's absolutely nothing which makes me feel unsure 'bout it. Except of the fact that it's a FINAL!! No offense to the rising SKT star, but there's NO WAY fantasy can beat Stork, only his nerves can. Anyway I predict Stork to take this one 3-0.

The MSL is kind of weird nowadays; just to recall the ten biggest surprises:
10. Frozean lost to Nada and stopped the gayest bo3 ever from happening (pretty vs. cuteangel)
9. only players from 4 groups in the ro8 (kind of mysterious)
8. Best didn't qualify
7. Flash got eliminated at group stage even without facing Jangbi
6. JD lost to free
5. FBH beat Tempest
4. FBH beat Bisu
3. FBH beat Much
2. FBH made it to the ro8 facing only Ps
1. read 2-5 again; f*cking hell, can't believe what I'm writing, neither that it's true

-> P only semi-finals
-> Bisu-Stork 3:2
...maybe wrong thread, sorry ;-)

On October 27 2008 02:59 DhakhaR wrote:
FBH has to move up a fair few places, although he did lose to bogus

On October 28 2008 14:05 wswordsmen wrote:

Is it against the TL commandments/other rules to ask to ban someone? Even when they are criticizing JD for losing to Sangho when he clearly did not watch the game. Seriously Sangho that game played on a level you would expect out of (actually there aren't any toss that good PvZ right now).

Spoilers for post size.

On October 28 2008 14:05 wswordsmen wrote:

Is it against the TL commandments/other rules to ask to ban someone? Even when they are criticizing JD for losing to Sangho when he clearly did not watch the game. Seriously Sangho that game played on a level you would expect out of (actually there aren't any toss that good PvZ right now).

Spoilers for post size.

On October 28 2008 23:47 Geo.Rion wrote:


sangho played well, his attack was perfectly prepared, BUT JD can win from every given situation, like losing his nat, getting proxyed ugly etc. And not only he lost to this, he lost to Free, and he lost to another Zerg player, a noname.
When this happens as polar bear mentioned, the zerg fans/palyers are scaried, yes we are, if JD wont own in starleauges and PL, who would? The twins arent and will never become champions, despite of good results and potential, zerg like Type B, thezerg, Calm are good for couple weeks, than fail to maintain the performence. July and GGplay , sometimes they shine for a few seconds, than go back into the shadows. Damn, i hope Savior gonna be back, altough i still believe that JD is the last and only hope of the zergs.

If this "shit" would happen to let's say Stork, people would say, well np Stork isn't in form, there are Best, Bisu, Jangbi, Free and one million other protosses, we can still cheer for them in the SLs and wait until Stork gots himself together again. But that's not the case with a (the only) zerg Ace.

Zergs are in a terrible shape, previous season they sucked as well, even tough the rules and the maps are helping in this season the zergs, 2 top teams are struggleing because, they dont have zergs (SKT and Khan). In fact the only 2 teams who can rely safely on their zergs is CJ and occasionaly OGN . Lecaf got the best Z but, he's alone, similar is the case of the KTF, STX got Calm and July(they together worth less than JD or Lux, not in every case but mostly), MBC isnt a relyable team so if they win with zergs that does not matter, Wemade isnt a team that can rely on anyone continuosly, the other teams are bad as they are


EDIT: oh sry i forgot to add this, COME BACK SAVIOR, WE NEED YOU!

On October 29 2008 00:50 Darth Peter wrote:
Come back Savior pls,we need you!!! But also, pull your shit back together JD,we need you even more. Also,I see,that the situation for Zergs is terrible,and they won't win a Starleague this season,but I feel,the situation is much better,than last season. Last season zergs won two starleagues(Jd and July),and Luxury was great,but in that season,we could not see shine any other players. There were no zergs sent out to ace matches,except for Luxury,otherwise,everybody sent out their terrans instead. I don't even remember Jd being sent out as ace. Right now,at least we get to see entertaining matches thanks to Luxury,Jaedong,Effort,Type-b,Yarnc,Calm and even GGplay played nice in the osl. And last season the tosses were in the same situation,they haven't won anything,none of them could stand up against the terrans,or against JD and July. I feel we have the same situation. Until Jd slumps,we can still hope,that he will comeback,and we hope that Savior destroys everybody,just like he promised. I think it is not good to bury the zergs just yet,they will come back,and in greater numbers.

On October 29 2008 06:03 disciple wrote:
You guys must prepare now for a looong toss reign, which will end with the death of the sc1 proscene and the birth of sc2. The MSL PPPP semifinal is just the beginning. All the terrans are chumps, pray for JD to step back his ZvP to his godlike level

On October 29 2008 09:56 nujabes wrote:
EDIT: there are spoilers for those who haven't watched the most recent games

my rankings would be the following:

1. Stork - I never really liked him but the man is playing really well and as consistent as a progamer can get. He deserves the #1 ranking regardless of winning the osl finals just for playing so damn great up until now. His current score in October is 14-5 with losses to tough opponents like Bisu, Best, and ForGG
2. Jaedong - Although he was eliminated from both leagues, Jaedong is still a monster and is still one of the top players of today
3.Bisu - I know that Bisu seems a little high up and I guess you can say that Im a partial fanboy as well. However, Bisu has been playing really consistent as of late, with his pvp and pvt being revamped. The only person that was able to take a bo3 out of Bisu lately was Stork with a really close 2-1 win. He has also showed us that his macro and PvT in general improved with the dismantling of Hwasin. He has also been a very reliable player in the proleague, unlike the period of time where he was considered a bonjwa. His current score of October is 10-3
4. Fantasy - He is in the finals of the OSL by destroying ggplay 3-1 as well as winning a couple of convincing TvT series. However, I dont think that fantasy has the ability to play as well as the top 3, considering that he caught ggplay offguard with the well timed mech build and couldn't win with a standard build.
5. BeSt - He is a monster at proleagues and boasted a PvP winning streak of 13 games until the OSL Semifinals. However, his PvZ is still pretty bad compared to the other top protoss players, and he was not able to prove his PvP supremacy to Stork. His PvT is still great though and he has decent odds at beating just about any non-zerg player.
6. Free - Pretty has been the backbone of whatever is left of his team. Having a 6-2 record in the proleague and winning a bo3 against jaedong, Free is showing just how damn good he can be when in form. Unfortunately, Free is known to be very inconsistent so we can only wait and watch how he does in the future.
7. FBH - Firebathero is another player that I don't particularly like. However, after cruising through the group of aiur and losing only to a in-form free and best (out of his protoss opponents). FBH is showing that he's definitely a threat. I'm just hoping that Bisu will demolish him so we don't have to bear any more ceremonies.
8. flash - Yes, flash has been eliminated from both leagues and has lost games due to his predictable 14cc build. Despite his recent losses, flash is still alive and winning in the proleague, carrying KTF on his back with the help of Luxury. I would probably vote flash against anyone who isn't ranked above him in a bo3.
9. SaviOr - SaviOr has delivered his fans a couple yawn rapes after boldly stating that he would destroy everyone in 2009. Being 5-1 in October not counting blizzcon (which he was undefeated in), the maestro is picking up momentum. Losing to a very seasoned ZvZ player such as Yarnc is not a big deal and I'm giving savior the benefit of the doubt due to his past experience and capability.
10 - Honestly I'm not sure who I would put in here. The only names that come up in mind are Leta who is 6-2 in the proleague for October, Luxury who has been 5-1 in the proleague, or GGplay. Although GGplay lost to Fantasy in the semifinals, the maps being played were very terrible for zerg. Fantasy also prepared a build that GGplay did not expect and couldn't react correctly to. However, GGplay did manage to show us his impressive hive tech management during the third game of the bo5. GGplay has lost the last 2 proleague games and has me wondering whether he will fall into mediocrity once more.

On October 30 2008 03:00 Ver wrote:
Gotta love the blatant tl JD bias. It's weird because people hated Savior up until nostalgia came around, even though he put up far better results with worse maps and far better form than JD (on a totally different mental plane). Instead they praised Nada and Nal_rA. But JD who is nothing in comparison gets a ton of unjustified love, while his counterparts in Flash and ForGG are either hated, for the former, or forgotten, for the latter.

Look at the facts!

JD is 6-5 in October, with 1 of those wins over Flash. That wasn't a BO loss though, it was more JD taking an appropriate risk and Flash getting owned for being dumb/underestimating him. So props to him for that. However, considering two losses are in zvz and the rest are in zvp, his best matchups, JD is not looking the same as before. I didn't see it so maybe RorO was Chojja reborn, but how do you justify losing to RorO? JD's zvz of the past transcended BO loss, and frankly everything. Loss to Yarnc isn't as bad, but still. One can argue that his loss to free on Byzantium 2 was a gimme given the imbalance so far, but things do change and judging map imbalance way too early has been a constant theme throughout the years. Arcadia started out 0-11 TvZ or so and gradually became almost balanced record at the end.

Flash is 11-5 over the same timeframe, including that luck loss to GGplay on Plasma. He isn't looking amazing, and is definitely isn't the genius Flash of the past that made me like him. But he's on a 5-0 streak since his loss to JD and is looking to pull out of 'retard Flash mode' that was him post-OSL curse. So far he's either won with amazing defense with 14cc, or NOT 14ccing. But maybe he'll still cheese Bisu.

Certainly JD of the past months has been a lot better than Flash and looking only a notch or two less than his dominating form a year ago, but either he's had a lot of unfortunate 'coincidences' strung together in October (losing to Free on Athena was just plain poor play though) or he's dropping down.

Either way, it's utterly ridiculous to put JD even near the top 3, and it's also absurd to put JD so much higher up than Flash. While 1 spot higher would make some sense, considering JD still dominated their lost encounter, it's pretty clear that JD is nowhere near the form his fanboys believes.

Just to point out something interesting:
All PR #1 had won a major title (if you include GSI as a major title which, given the level of competition, you should), so if Stork loses to Fantasy but still gets #1, he would be the first person to do this. If Stork does lose for any reason but blatant dumb luck, like Flash vs GGplay on Plasma (and I hope/think he will, go oov/fantasy), then a #1 peak would look really out of place for him.

I won't even bother making a list, since a lot is determined by FBH/Bisu and Nada/Free, and of course Fantasy/Stork.

On October 29 2008 14:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


I disagree alot. Mine would look more like this:

1.Stork
2.BeSt
3.Jaedong
4.by.Fantasy
5.Bisu
6.Free
7.firebathero
8.Kal
9.by.Flash
10.Yellow

I think it's too early to put sAviOr in the PR. Those last 3 spots would be tough for me, I don't watch enough SC to really make up my mind.

That's why oneother and FS do the rank, not any of us.

On October 30 2008 04:58 OneOther wrote:
Jaedong above BeSt?
Which sounds better

1) Jaedong losing to Free and SangHo, who are mediocre PvZ at best, in MSL Ro16. Disappointing losses in his best matchup, ZvZ.
2) BeSt losing to Stork, who has been UNSTOPPABLE lately, in OSL semifinals. What is BeSt's record in proleague?

On October 30 2008 05:42 Dazed_Spy wrote:
1. Stork
2. Best
3. Fantasy
4. Bisu
5. Jaedong
6. Free
7. FBH
8. Jangbi
9. Flash
10. Kal

Seriously people, stop overlooking Jangbi, and stop overevaluating Jaedong. Flash was dropped too slowly on the PR, he was not top 3 for the last few months, lets not make the same mistake with Jaedong. Hes playing substandard, drop him to that level. If he plays well next month, its a come back, not a continuation of his already existing play. Flash is still doing well in PL, and all odds are, he will go far in GOM. Jangbi has shown very strong results all in all lately- Kal is a bit of another case. He's in the MSL, hes done well there, hes done well in PL- but hes also done bad in PL/and msl [inconsistent is what im saying]. No one else really deserves it more, so Kal barely clinches it. The rest is just kind of obvious, Bisu/fbh/free have been on fire, Best is still a strong player, and Fantasy while going far in OSL hasn't shown the trust consistency required to declare him the second best in the entire world. Yet.

So there you have it; the correct Power Rank.

On October 30 2008 05:45 Geo.Rion wrote:



you cant drop Forgg from PR, his only "bad" performence was lossing to Stork 2-1, other than that he's kicking asses

On October 30 2008 06:24 disciple wrote:
what the fuck with "bisu is not there yet, bisu must win in PL more games" and stuff. The guy is on roll ! He is on 7-8 games winning streak, his ELO is higher than JD's what the fuck do you want more? Yes, he will 3-0 FBH with ez, the game in the group stage was won by the ceremony king but bisu was preparing for his PvP games with stork and fbh had like 3 weeks just to improve a bit his TvP. Tempest is a chump, FBH will drop the soap so badly to the first good toss, seriously Bisu will destroy him it wont be even funny. Right now there are two guys to beat - Stork and Bisu. All others are chumps with wlwlwlwllllww records

On October 30 2008 08:21 Polar_Bear wrote:
why does everyone put forgg that low? he's the fav. vs. any player on earth except of stork, this should be considered in the ranking

On October 30 2008 04:20 OneOther wrote:
Why would Jaedong be placed higher than Fantasy? Higher than Bisu/BeSt? What has Jaedong done lately?

EDIT: Because Jaedong's placement is hard to determine for this month, I just want to hear arguments for both sides. As of now, I don't see how Jaedong would be above any of those guys..