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On November 02 2008 10:08 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 08:09 Nick_54 wrote:
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10- Flash- You sucked it up in both leagues, but you are 8-3 in proleague. Sounds like something Sea would do and he would be given a spot for sure, so you will get the bottom spot. In all seriousness, Gom and the next 2 leagues are very important. You were playing so great but if GOM and the next OSL and MSL go bad you are going to be considered a fluke build as opposed to just slumping.
I agree with everything on your list, and the reasonings, but this is stupid. Flash was only one build? K um...first off: Flash build was a counter to storks fast carriers, he didn't always use it, he didn't get a really good win ratio then, or now, with only that build. But more importantly, Flash was fucking dominant as hell in every match up, and he didn't have a "Flash build" in tvz and tvt. So really, that was a stupid fucking comment, based on literally nothing.
Does fluke instead of fluke build sound better. Look he did really good in one starleague. He beat Rock and Rumble. He went all in firebat rush and used mech against Jaedong. A "slumping" Bisu pushed him to his limit. He outsmarted Stork with his timing attacks and BBS rush. This doesnt have anything to do with the power rank though.
He's quickly on his way to being forgotten like Mind if he can't deliver soon.
Also to the other posters Fantasy has to be top 4 I think, just based on results. A lot of people forget how awesome his TvT is.
Also, idk maybe ForGG should be a low spot like 10? I mean OSL>MSL>Proleague is the general formula, I think. OSL he made ro24 and MSL he made ro16. Both are decent, but as far as powerrank material a low spot at best. Honestly, no1 even knows how hard Stork was practicing as he was probably more worried about beating Best.
The way my rank goes, I rank people on results in the current starleague season, personal preference I guess. We will see what Steve decides, it should be interesting.
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On November 02 2008 11:06 Nick_54 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 10:08 Dazed_Spy wrote:On November 02 2008 08:09 Nick_54 wrote:
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10- Flash- You sucked it up in both leagues, but you are 8-3 in proleague. Sounds like something Sea would do and he would be given a spot for sure, so you will get the bottom spot. In all seriousness, Gom and the next 2 leagues are very important. You were playing so great but if GOM and the next OSL and MSL go bad you are going to be considered a fluke build as opposed to just slumping.
I agree with everything on your list, and the reasonings, but this is stupid. Flash was only one build? K um...first off: Flash build was a counter to storks fast carriers, he didn't always use it, he didn't get a really good win ratio then, or now, with only that build. But more importantly, Flash was fucking dominant as hell in every match up, and he didn't have a "Flash build" in tvz and tvt. So really, that was a stupid fucking comment, based on literally nothing. Does fluke instead of fluke build sound better. Look he did really good in one starleague. He beat Rock and Rumble. He went all in firebat rush and used mech against Jaedong. A "slumping" Bisu pushed him to his limit. He outsmarted Stork with his timing attacks and BBS rush. This doesnt have anything to do with the power rank though. He's quickly on his way to being forgotten like Mind if he can't deliver soon. He won a starleague and the GSI, and gave utterly outstounding play in proleague for months afterwards. He has the highest ELO peak in history. A fluke does not last three [gsl s1] leagues, and six months or so. He got hit hard mentally when Luxury beat him, and made a couple stupid mistakes in terms of builds [14cc gogo] and lost due to bad luck against ggplay. Flash is not being forgotten at all, and is still easily one of the best players on the planet- unfortunately hes knocked out of the leagues due to poor luck and cant show it. Though you may dislike him and look down at his play as being lackluster, it merely highlights your lack of knowledge on starcraft.
Cheers.
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On November 02 2008 11:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 11:06 Nick_54 wrote:On November 02 2008 10:08 Dazed_Spy wrote:On November 02 2008 08:09 Nick_54 wrote:
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10- Flash- You sucked it up in both leagues, but you are 8-3 in proleague. Sounds like something Sea would do and he would be given a spot for sure, so you will get the bottom spot. In all seriousness, Gom and the next 2 leagues are very important. You were playing so great but if GOM and the next OSL and MSL go bad you are going to be considered a fluke build as opposed to just slumping.
I agree with everything on your list, and the reasonings, but this is stupid. Flash was only one build? K um...first off: Flash build was a counter to storks fast carriers, he didn't always use it, he didn't get a really good win ratio then, or now, with only that build. But more importantly, Flash was fucking dominant as hell in every match up, and he didn't have a "Flash build" in tvz and tvt. So really, that was a stupid fucking comment, based on literally nothing. Does fluke instead of fluke build sound better. Look he did really good in one starleague. He beat Rock and Rumble. He went all in firebat rush and used mech against Jaedong. A "slumping" Bisu pushed him to his limit. He outsmarted Stork with his timing attacks and BBS rush. This doesnt have anything to do with the power rank though. He's quickly on his way to being forgotten like Mind if he can't deliver soon. He won a starleague and the GSI, and gave utterly outstounding play in proleague for months afterwards. He has the highest ELO peak in history. A fluke does not last three [gsl s1] leagues, and six months or so. He got hit hard mentally when Luxury beat him, and made a couple stupid mistakes in terms of builds [14cc gogo] and lost due to bad luck against ggplay. Flash is not being forgotten at all, and is still easily one of the best players on the planet- unfortunately hes knocked out of the leagues due to poor luck and cant show it. Though you may dislike him and look down at his play as being lackluster, it merely highlights your lack of knowledge on starcraft. Cheers.
I agree for the most part, but I would think that Flash has inconsistent ability which plays a large part in his recent losses. I'm actually writing an article about Flash and his "slumps", so I'm interested to hear your thoughts on that when I post it.
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On November 02 2008 11:11 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 11:06 Nick_54 wrote:On November 02 2008 10:08 Dazed_Spy wrote:On November 02 2008 08:09 Nick_54 wrote:
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10- Flash- You sucked it up in both leagues, but you are 8-3 in proleague. Sounds like something Sea would do and he would be given a spot for sure, so you will get the bottom spot. In all seriousness, Gom and the next 2 leagues are very important. You were playing so great but if GOM and the next OSL and MSL go bad you are going to be considered a fluke build as opposed to just slumping.
I agree with everything on your list, and the reasonings, but this is stupid. Flash was only one build? K um...first off: Flash build was a counter to storks fast carriers, he didn't always use it, he didn't get a really good win ratio then, or now, with only that build. But more importantly, Flash was fucking dominant as hell in every match up, and he didn't have a "Flash build" in tvz and tvt. So really, that was a stupid fucking comment, based on literally nothing. Does fluke instead of fluke build sound better. Look he did really good in one starleague. He beat Rock and Rumble. He went all in firebat rush and used mech against Jaedong. A "slumping" Bisu pushed him to his limit. He outsmarted Stork with his timing attacks and BBS rush. This doesnt have anything to do with the power rank though. He's quickly on his way to being forgotten like Mind if he can't deliver soon. He won a starleague and the GSI, and gave utterly outstounding play in proleague for months afterwards. He has the highest ELO peak in history. A fluke does not last three [gsl s1] leagues, and six months or so. He got hit hard mentally when Luxury beat him, and made a couple stupid mistakes in terms of builds [14cc gogo] and lost due to bad luck against ggplay. Flash is not being forgotten at all, and is still easily one of the best players on the planet- unfortunately hes knocked out of the leagues due to poor luck and cant show it. Though you may dislike him and look down at his play as being lackluster, it merely highlights your lack of knowledge on starcraft. Cheers.
Waaaaaay over your head, I guess. Anyway try and keep comments on this powerrank plz.
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The pr is especially hard beacause we have 11 people.
Stork, Fantasy, Jaedong, Best, Bisu, Forgg, Fbh, Kal, Jangbi, Free, Flash.
Who cannnot be kicked from PR:
Stork, he is nr 1.
Jaedong, he was nr 1, even if his stat would be 4-0 this month or sg like that would be tough to kick him, it never happened befor. And his stat is still positive.
Fantasy, OSL finals loosing only to Stork
Best, 8-2 PL, osl semifinal loosing only to Stork
Bisu, no doubt, he barely lost to stork, owning everywhere
Forgg, 4-0 PL, no defeats in MSL until he lost to Stork 2-1 (yes, we can speculate if we want, probably Stork didnt practice a lot, so if somebody likes this way count that series as 2-0)
Free, beating JD, putting his team in the middle of the PL rankings from the bottom spots
Jangbi, stellar stat.
The remainig 3.
Kal, Kal played questionably. He is 11-7 since the beginning of october. That is a decent stat, but let's see his bo3 against Iris. He could have lost that quite easily, his first game was vey well played, the other 2, it was more like "who can loose it" (sry if i insult some fans). Against Stork, yes this would be his ticket to the PR, beating the nr 1 in bo5. But if somebody already started the speculation why to stop here. Stork didn't care too much about this game, he clearly practiced PvTn and because his series against best were builds and tactics disegned on those maps against Best, he couldn't really use them. If Kal would have beaten Stork 3-1, at the 4th game, than i would say, you're the man 3-1 is a clear victory, no matter what are the cirucmstances, BUT he used maybe the worst PvP build i've seen in a while, so the series gone to a 5th game. Had some stupid losses in the PL too.
Flash, he is defineatly top3 material, his games in PL showed that nobody can count him out just yet, so i would put him on PR, despite the shameful preformence in the Starleauges. He would be on an 8 games winning streak, but there was a certain Zerg who punished him badly for his greedy build (Jaedong of course).
FBH. To be honest, i would leave him out. No, i'm not an FBH-hater, i dislike Flash btw. But FBH didn't show too much, at least i dont see it.Yes he made a great upset, making trough his MSL group filled with decent/very good protsses. But if we speculate, as we did untill now, let's see waht happened. Lets say you are on of the protosses. You see your group, 2 good PvP, and a push over who was humiliated one million time already in this mu. You clearly start to practice PvP all day and night. As for FBH he got 2 damn good PvT in his team, he did nothin just practice TvP, and his work payed off, he made trough the group. His game against Bisu was a close one, i'm absolutely sure if Bisu had taken that more seriously he would have destroyed him. -(sry, i feel i made some grammer mistakes, correct me)-. As i'm sure he gonna be destroyed in their upcoming bo5. I will eat my words for sure if that doesnt happen. PL, his PL performence is BAD. 3-3, well that doesnt sound too bad, but he basicly lost all the games which were tougher (Leta, Free, Best) beating Rock, Really (lol) and 2 rax cheesed Flash, that's his only "good" PL match. He didn't even look good against Rock. Rock clearly was in lead in that game, than he made the stupidest flank moves i seen in a while. Making a comeback against the caveman, doesnt soundd too great. In a team like MBC that would be great, in a team like S.Khan, that's lame.
EDIT: I forgot, he rolled over Tempest, great achievment beating a player, who made it there with cheeses, in standard play. I have nothing against FBH, really, but there ar 10 ppl better than him right now, at least it seems to me. Another "great achievement" is loosing to Bogus 2-0 in GOM...
So FS must have a tough time, i'm courios who will he drop.
EDIT: Oneother or others may say that this post doen't have any meaning beacuse it's based on speculations, i forgot to tell that i consider speculation absolutley necesarry beacause of the even standings in the top 11
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Yeah,it's really top,there are 11 almost equal guys for a ten list. It's a shame that the PR has only ten spots. It's a really tough call,and I'm sure that most people would drop ForGG,but that is unfair. How is he not PL material? He is fuckin' undefeated in PL,advanced in Gom vs his very capable teammate,Hiya(FBH lost to Bogus,who the hell is he?),and lost in the Msl to the best player in the world right now. I think that he is the worst luck in the player pool,and is one of the strongest players out there right now,and he didn't play few matches this month.He played a lot,you can't say,that putting him on the rank is based on speculations,because he dominated! I personally would leave Kal out. Okay,he beat Stork,but those series were a luckfest IMO. Okay,he won two matches vs KTF,but he is so inconsistent. First,he beats players like Lux,and after that,he loses to players like Zero. He can beat the best players in the world,but he can lose to anybody,even in a series. For that inconsistency,I don't think he deserves a spot.
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Darth Peter: I agree with you for the most part, but you can't use Kal's losses to Zero and such against him. What about Jaedong's loss against Roro? I mean, he's even more random than Zero. SangHo? Yeah, let's not even go there. The truth is almost anyone can lose to anyone in a given match, especially in Proleague. Kal not being on the Power Ranking would be ridiculous, outrageous, and absurd. His win against the best player in Stork was not luck - Kal is an excellent player.
This is coming from a guy who had to watch his favorite player lose to Kal 2-3. I dislike Kal.
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Yeah,that's also true,but who would you leave out then? ForGG? I think that despite being eliminated from the MSL,he still deserves a rank,because he is a dominant player,and already is a champion. Perhaps FBH should be left out,but he isn't underperforming compared to last month,when he was ranked,so I don't think it would be fair to drop him.
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On November 02 2008 16:52 Geo.Rion wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The pr is especially hard beacause we have 11 people.
Stork, Fantasy, Jaedong, Best, Bisu, Forgg, Fbh, Kal, Jangbi, Free, Flash.
Who cannnot be kicked from PR:
Stork, he is nr 1.
Jaedong, he was nr 1, even if his stat would be 4-0 this month or sg like that would be tough to kick him, it never happened befor. And his stat is still positive.
Fantasy, OSL finals loosing only to Stork
Best, 8-2 PL, osl semifinal loosing only to Stork
Bisu, no doubt, he barely lost to stork, owning everywhere
Forgg, 4-0 PL, no defeats in MSL until he lost to Stork 2-1 (yes, we can speculate if we want, probably Stork didnt practice a lot, so if somebody likes this way count that series as 2-0)
Free, beating JD, putting his team in the middle of the PL rankings from the bottom spots
Jangbi, stellar stat.
The remainig 3.
Kal, Kal played questionably. He is 11-7 since the beginning of october. That is a decent stat, but let's see his bo3 against Iris. He could have lost that quite easily, his first game was vey well played, the other 2, it was more like "who can loose it" (sry if i insult some fans). Against Stork, yes this would be his ticket to the PR, beating the nr 1 in bo5. But if somebody already started the speculation why to stop here. Stork didn't care too much about this game, he clearly practiced PvTn and because his series against best were builds and tactics disegned on those maps against Best, he couldn't really use them. If Kal would have beaten Stork 3-1, at the 4th game, than i would say, you're the man 3-1 is a clear victory, no matter what are the cirucmstances, BUT he used maybe the worst PvP build i've seen in a while, so the series gone to a 5th game. Had some stupid losses in the PL too.
Flash, he is defineatly top3 material, his games in PL showed that nobody can count him out just yet, so i would put him on PR, despite the shameful preformence in the Starleauges. He would be on an 8 games winning streak, but there was a certain Zerg who punished him badly for his greedy build (Jaedong of course).
FBH. To be honest, i would leave him out. No, i'm not an FBH-hater, i dislike Flash btw. But FBH didn't show too much, at least i dont see it.Yes he made a great upset, making trough his MSL group filled with decent/very good protsses. But if we speculate, as we did untill now, let's see waht happened. Lets say you are on of the protosses. You see your group, 2 good PvP, and a push over who was humiliated one million time already in this mu. You clearly start to practice PvP all day and night. As for FBH he got 2 damn good PvT in his team, he did nothin just practice TvP, and his work payed off, he made trough the group. His game against Bisu was a close one, i'm absolutely sure if Bisu had taken that more seriously he would have destroyed him. -(sry, i feel i made some grammer mistakes, correct me)-. As i'm sure he gonna be destroyed in their upcoming bo5. I will eat my words for sure if that doesnt happen. PL, his PL performence is BAD. 3-3, well that doesnt sound too bad, but he basicly lost all the games which were tougher (Leta, Free, Best) beating Rock, Really (lol) and 2 rax cheesed Flash, that's his only "good" PL match. He didn't even look good against Rock. Rock clearly was in lead in that game, than he made the stupidest flank moves i seen in a while. Making a comeback against the caveman, doesnt soundd too great. In a team like MBC that would be great, in a team like S.Khan, that's lame.
EDIT: I forgot, he rolled over Tempest, great achievment beating a player, who made it there with cheeses, in standard play. I have nothing against FBH, really, but there ar 10 ppl better than him right now, at least it seems to me. Another "great achievement" is loosing to Bogus 2-0 in GOM...
So FS must have a tough time, i'm courios who will he drop.
EDIT: Oneother or others may say that this post doen't have any meaning beacuse it's based on speculations, i forgot to tell that i consider speculation absolutley necesarry beacause of the even standings in the top 11
I pretty much agree with this. I absolutely love FBH to death, and even I'm still leery of his TvP. His match against Bisu will clear up a lot. I think if he wins at least 2 games against Bisu, and start playing better in the PL, he'll definitely return next month(ranking based on how far he advances in the MSL) . But murdering Tempest, who played absolutely horribly, is really nothing worth gushing over.
I think in terms of their orders, it really depends on how much stock one puts into past month performance vs. overall recent performance. Personally, I prefer looking at a player as a whole, in which case,
1. Stork
2t. Best
2t. Bisu
4. Jaedong - Bad month but we all have them
5. Free - Amazing performances in OSL and PL
6. Fantasy - His mech build getting owned in the PL took him down a notch IMO. I also want to point out that he also had an extra week and a half to prepare for the finals over Stork. Not only did his semi round complete sooner, but Stork had to play in the MSL twice and then the GOM the days after his semifinals. Fantasy had a HUGE advantage in preparation. That's why I take his near-win in the OSL with a grain of salt.
7. ForGG - Yes, he played Stork, but he didn't even put up much of a fight. And that series should have been 2-0 for all intents and purposes.
8. Jangbi - Can't argue with results. Pretty much just beat everyone he ran into, even if some of them came against ZvP-challenged fake yellow.
9. Flash - Still dominating the proleagues. Did alright in the starleagues. Now if only doesn't use 14 CC so much keep getting cheesed to death.
10. Kal - For beating Stork, and generally playing well. He also looks to be the favorite against Jangbi, unless Jangbi decides to take his PvP up a level.
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I think this month's PR is one of the stronger ones in recent times. I can't remember a time where such strong performances can result in people getting ranked so low or even missing out on PR.
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I would take ForGG out and leave FBH to 10th position. ForGG didnt show anything this month, FBH had a huge leap in his TvP. In this moment there are not many players to have that win ratio in tvp, not even Flash, ForGG or Mind could make their games so good in such a few time.
If not for this, i dont know what needs him to take to be on PR...after all he beat some PR players: Bisu, Flash.
Also he beat Much and Tempest, two of the most spectacular players in PvT...
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On November 03 2008 00:28 Phradamon wrote:
I would take ForGG out and leave FBH to 10th position. ForGG didnt show anything this month, FBH had a huge leap in his TvP. In this moment there are not many players to have that win ratio in tvp, not even Flash, ForGG or Mind could make their games so good in such a few time.
If not for this, i dont know what needs him to take to be on PR...after all he beat some PR players: Bisu, Flash.
Also he beat Much and Tempest, two of the most spectacular players in PvT...
Tempest is lame, he can only cheese, Much is loosing to everybody recently.
FBH took down Bisu in a close match, for which Bisu did not practice too much, and 2 rax cheesed Flash... But that is still good performence, i admit.
Forgg is 7-3, loosing 2 games to Stork, and one against Hiya, but in a series that he won, so that doesn't count as a failure.
What isnt good performence: FBH got kicked out from GSI by a complete new noname Terran, and TvT is statisticly his best MU... He's doing bad in PL, Forgg does not have a single loss there. Instead of writing everything down again, read my comment posted above.
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On November 02 2008 19:46 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2008 16:52 Geo.Rion wrote:+ Show Spoiler +The pr is especially hard beacause we have 11 people.
Stork, Fantasy, Jaedong, Best, Bisu, Forgg, Fbh, Kal, Jangbi, Free, Flash.
Who cannnot be kicked from PR:
Stork, he is nr 1.
Jaedong, he was nr 1, even if his stat would be 4-0 this month or sg like that would be tough to kick him, it never happened befor. And his stat is still positive.
Fantasy, OSL finals loosing only to Stork
Best, 8-2 PL, osl semifinal loosing only to Stork
Bisu, no doubt, he barely lost to stork, owning everywhere
Forgg, 4-0 PL, no defeats in MSL until he lost to Stork 2-1 (yes, we can speculate if we want, probably Stork didnt practice a lot, so if somebody likes this way count that series as 2-0)
Free, beating JD, putting his team in the middle of the PL rankings from the bottom spots
Jangbi, stellar stat.
The remainig 3.
Kal, Kal played questionably. He is 11-7 since the beginning of october. That is a decent stat, but let's see his bo3 against Iris. He could have lost that quite easily, his first game was vey well played, the other 2, it was more like "who can loose it" (sry if i insult some fans). Against Stork, yes this would be his ticket to the PR, beating the nr 1 in bo5. But if somebody already started the speculation why to stop here. Stork didn't care too much about this game, he clearly practiced PvTn and because his series against best were builds and tactics disegned on those maps against Best, he couldn't really use them. If Kal would have beaten Stork 3-1, at the 4th game, than i would say, you're the man 3-1 is a clear victory, no matter what are the cirucmstances, BUT he used maybe the worst PvP build i've seen in a while, so the series gone to a 5th game. Had some stupid losses in the PL too.
Flash, he is defineatly top3 material, his games in PL showed that nobody can count him out just yet, so i would put him on PR, despite the shameful preformence in the Starleauges. He would be on an 8 games winning streak, but there was a certain Zerg who punished him badly for his greedy build (Jaedong of course).
FBH. To be honest, i would leave him out. No, i'm not an FBH-hater, i dislike Flash btw. But FBH didn't show too much, at least i dont see it.Yes he made a great upset, making trough his MSL group filled with decent/very good protsses. But if we speculate, as we did untill now, let's see waht happened. Lets say you are on of the protosses. You see your group, 2 good PvP, and a push over who was humiliated one million time already in this mu. You clearly start to practice PvP all day and night. As for FBH he got 2 damn good PvT in his team, he did nothin just practice TvP, and his work payed off, he made trough the group. His game against Bisu was a close one, i'm absolutely sure if Bisu had taken that more seriously he would have destroyed him. -(sry, i feel i made some grammer mistakes, correct me)-. As i'm sure he gonna be destroyed in their upcoming bo5. I will eat my words for sure if that doesnt happen. PL, his PL performence is BAD. 3-3, well that doesnt sound too bad, but he basicly lost all the games which were tougher (Leta, Free, Best) beating Rock, Really (lol) and 2 rax cheesed Flash, that's his only "good" PL match. He didn't even look good against Rock. Rock clearly was in lead in that game, than he made the stupidest flank moves i seen in a while. Making a comeback against the caveman, doesnt soundd too great. In a team like MBC that would be great, in a team like S.Khan, that's lame.
EDIT: I forgot, he rolled over Tempest, great achievment beating a player, who made it there with cheeses, in standard play. I have nothing against FBH, really, but there ar 10 ppl better than him right now, at least it seems to me. Another "great achievement" is loosing to Bogus 2-0 in GOM...
So FS must have a tough time, i'm courios who will he drop.
EDIT: Oneother or others may say that this post doen't have any meaning beacuse it's based on speculations, i forgot to tell that i consider speculation absolutley necesarry beacause of the even standings in the top 11 I pretty much agree with this. I absolutely love FBH to death, and even I'm still leery of his TvP. His match against Bisu will clear up a lot. I think if he wins at least 2 games against Bisu, and start playing better in the PL, he'll definitely return next month(ranking based on how far he advances in the MSL) . But murdering Tempest, who played absolutely horribly, is really nothing worth gushing over. I think in terms of their orders, it really depends on how much stock one puts into past month performance vs. overall recent performance. Personally, I prefer looking at a player as a whole, in which case, 1. Stork 2t. Best 2t. Bisu 4. Jaedong - Bad month but we all have them 5. Free - Amazing performances in OSL and PL 6. Fantasy - His mech build getting owned in the PL took him down a notch IMO. I also want to point out that he also had an extra week and a half to prepare for the finals over Stork. Not only did his semi round complete sooner, but Stork had to play in the MSL twice and then the GOM the days after his semifinals. Fantasy had a HUGE advantage in preparation. That's why I take his near-win in the OSL with a grain of salt. 7. ForGG - Yes, he played Stork, but he didn't even put up much of a fight. And that series should have been 2-0 for all intents and purposes. 8. Jangbi - Can't argue with results. Pretty much just beat everyone he ran into, even if some of them came against ZvP-challenged fake yellow. 9. Flash - Still dominating the proleagues. Did alright in the starleagues. Now if only doesn't use 14 CC so much keep getting cheesed to death. 10. Kal - For beating Stork, and generally playing well. He also looks to be the favorite against Jangbi, unless Jangbi decides to take his PvP up a level.
I don't think Best or Bisu deserve to be that high . Free is performeing better then them and JangBi and KAL about equal . To many fucking tosses are in good form to make an accurate rank next month . I also think that ForGG is the strongest terran out there with Flash and maybe Fantasy , but then again FBH is doing good . In the zerg section Jaedong and Luxury are always monsters despite Luxury haveing a not so good ZvP . So i don't know how the rank should be made .
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Stork number one power rank for the first time in his career. You know it's coming!
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6. Fantasy - His mech build getting owned in the PL took him down a notch IMO. I also want to point out that he also had an extra week and a half to prepare for the finals over Stork. Not only did his semi round complete sooner, but Stork had to play in the MSL twice and then the GOM the days after his semifinals. Fantasy had a HUGE advantage in preparation. That's why I take his near-win in the OSL with a grain of salt.
7. ForGG - Yes, he played Stork, but he didn't even put up much of a fight. And that series should have been 2-0 for all intents and purposes.
You cannot say "Stork didn't have much OSL practice time!" while at the same time saying "Stork never even practiced against ForGG"
Stork had to practice for something. It is unfair to ForGG to say that his series should have been 2-0. Did you even watch those games? ForGG played impressively, the only reason he lost was because he was playing Stork.
I think it is also safe to say that Stork practiced for the OSL finals like crazy. Sure, Fantasy had an advantage through the scheduling of events, but Stork still practiced a ton, as was obvious from the series. That series by Fantasy was amazing, he came back from being 0-2, demonstrating great mental fortitude. That should get him high on the power rank. How does his performance this month drop him two spots?
Please stop using the argument 'if stork practiced more, he would have swept these n00bs' - Stork won anyways, and I don't think that Stork's tough schedule can be used as an excuse to say these players are not doing well.
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On November 03 2008 02:28 TarsTarkas wrote:Show nested quote +
6. Fantasy - His mech build getting owned in the PL took him down a notch IMO. I also want to point out that he also had an extra week and a half to prepare for the finals over Stork. Not only did his semi round complete sooner, but Stork had to play in the MSL twice and then the GOM the days after his semifinals. Fantasy had a HUGE advantage in preparation. That's why I take his near-win in the OSL with a grain of salt.
7. ForGG - Yes, he played Stork, but he didn't even put up much of a fight. And that series should have been 2-0 for all intents and purposes.
You cannot say "Stork didn't have much OSL practice time!" while at the same time saying "Stork never even practiced against ForGG" Stork had to practice for something. It is unfair to ForGG to say that his series should have been 2-0. Did you even watch those games? ForGG played impressively, the only reason he lost was because he was playing Stork. I think it is also safe to say that Stork practiced for the OSL finals like crazy. Sure, Fantasy had an advantage through the scheduling of events, but Stork still practiced a ton, as was obvious from the series. That series by Fantasy was amazing, he came back from being 0-2, demonstrating great mental fortitude. That should get him high on the power rank. How does his performance this month drop him two spots? Please stop using the argument 'if stork practiced more, he would have swept these n00bs' - Stork won anyways, and I don't think that Stork's tough schedule can be used as an excuse to say these players are not doing well.
I don't think Fantasy should've been 4th last month, maybe 6th. But this month, he could be top 5.
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I for one think that FBH should get out of the PR just because of his games vs Bogus in GSL . i don't care if he didn't practise for the games or didn't really care . I would have offraced terran and displayed better games . He was pathethic.... thats not how a pro should play on TV and his lack of respect to his fans who went watching him... he was a poor sport to say the least .I'm glad that the Bogus kid humiliated him . Other than that he is not spectacular in PL and Tempest was the auto win in the MSL .Don't hail his so called "good" TvP so much just because he has 4 or so wins , althought i'll be rooting for him againts Bisu  .
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I wouldn`t put bisu on the #2 spot, it`s too high imo. He didn`t do anything outstanding
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On November 03 2008 03:34 raga4ka wrote:I for one think that FBH should get out of the PR just because of his games vs Bogus in GSL . i don't care if he didn't practise for the games or didn't really care . I would have offraced terran and displayed better games . He was pathethic.... thats not how a pro should play on TV and his lack of respect to his fans who went watching him... he was a poor sport to say the least .I'm glad that the Bogus kid humiliated him . Other than that he is not spectacular in PL and Tempest was the auto win in the MSL .Don't hail his so called "good" TvP so much just because he has 4 or so wins , althought i'll be rooting for him againts Bisu .
He had a failed cheese and then got cheesed this shouldnt overshadow his great games in MSL.
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God, after i had a heartattack caused by the F1 , watchin Jaedong destroying Hero is better than the best depressant medicine in the world.
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