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Koerage
Netherlands1220 Posts
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Sc2Wrath
United Kingdom58 Posts
It's nice Blizzard are not rushing into it though IMO. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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crazyweasel
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
Despite that, they should be looking at the possible issues now, and figuring out possible changes IF they're needed. People generally agree what the possible issues are (voidray/skytoss, widow mine ai, speedivacs, mutas in zvz, etc) and blizz should start brainstorming solutions now. | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
Speedmedivac is an issue, and so far the best solution for protoss is to go for one base air/ground timing. If this is the remaining solution in 2 months time, we are going to have some pretty boring matches. See if SUPER IMBA GG remains ^.^ People talk about recall but I am not sure, okay so you recall once, great you defend "a" drop. Usually "a" drop is not the issue. Regardless is taking a third base still really, really hard and if you cant take a third does defending drops usually only mean that you have successfully delayed your defeat with 5 minutes. Voidray should probably be nerfed too and if medivac remains this way I think protoss/zerg need better tools to deal with it. Medivacs remind me of how the initial blue flame hellions were in WoL. They risk/reward factor is in favor of reward every time. I am not sure what tactic protoss goes for that makes medivac drops become so risky that Terran doesnt try to drop. One base mass cannons? ^.^ | ||
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blastyblast21
United States61 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
1 - Well, if we have something wrong that needs a patch, it should be done asap. 2 - If we didn´t have something wrong, why patch after gsl? Wait til something looks wrong! I vote for number 2. | ||
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On March 20 2013 10:07 Taipoka wrote: I find it funny this "they should patch after GSL". 1 - Well, if we have something wrong that needs a patch, it should be done asap. 2 - If we didn´t have something wrong, why patch after gsl? Wait til something looks wrong! I vote for number 2. Obviously the problem is that you don't know if something is wrong or just appear to be wrong due to sample size / experience / development of meta. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Identify your problems. Solutions. Then do your vote, or draw straws, or whatever the hell it is you guys do there... but 1 change. ONE. CHANGE. That way you can quantify exactly why the metagame changes. Maybe changes once every 2 months after that. You will have much better control of the game I promise you. | ||
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Maynarde
Australia1286 Posts
A lot of people have mentioned to wait for GSL and some other large scale tournaments and couldn't agree more! | ||
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Nadril
68 Posts
Of course if something ends up being really broken than maybe patch sooner, but I'd prefer to see how at least this next GSL plays out and Dreamhack as well. | ||
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Chvol
United States200 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
T is definately a bit broken at the moment, they are simply the only race to get really useful upgrades in Hots: widow mine, battle hellion, medivac boost, air and mech upgrade combined, free siege, improved reapers and better thors. Zerg on the other hand gets for useful stuff only the viper and muta buff, swarm host is practically useless and hydra's still stink. P get's some decent stuff too but it's of little use against T, only the oracle is somewhat useful in that matchup though stargate is still of limited use there. The result is simple that T is broken now and results will proof that easily in a month. Patching needs to happen then or slightly earlier. No big things are needed, a tiny medivac nerf and maybe a slight fix to the voidray will be enough but as it is the game is blatantly broken which will reveal itself soon enough in numbers as well | ||
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warmus
United Kingdom196 Posts
On March 20 2013 17:36 Markwerf wrote: just because Life happened to win MLG some people think there is some balance while such a knockout tourney is a terrible gauge for balance. T is definately a bit broken at the moment, they are simply the only race to get really useful upgrades in Hots: widow mine, battle hellion, medivac boost, air and mech upgrade combined, free siege, improved reapers and better thors. Zerg on the other hand gets for useful stuff only the viper and muta buff, swarm host is practically useless and hydra's still stink. P get's some decent stuff too but it's of little use against T, only the oracle is somewhat useful in that matchup though stargate is still of limited use there. The result is simple that T is broken now and results will proof that easily in a month. Patching needs to happen then or slightly earlier. No big things are needed, a tiny medivac nerf and maybe a slight fix to the voidray will be enough but as it is the game is blatantly broken which will reveal itself soon enough in numbers as well I absolutely love this rationale. "Here is my opinion, based on nothing concrete, but its true!". You dont know a single thing about balance at this point in hots. What Idra says or how bly loses to flash is not evidence for anything, which have been so far the two types of hots experiences relating to balance. 1) A bunch of semi pros who have never developed the meta game in any way making statements about balance as they ladder in the beta. 2) Tournament results representing foreign zergs getting smashed by korean Ps and Ts. Until we see at least the first GSL, there is nothing really to be said about balance, because we have not seen the game played at a consistently highest (meta developing) level, with the actually best players barely starting to play. Stop thinking you know something about balance, as there is simply nothing out there yet that can support your claim. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
New units are strong, as they should be. Terrans changes are easier to apply in a game because they don't change they way you play that much. P / Z need more time because they got more complex units. | ||
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