i'd prefer they wait as long as possible, but i could ive with small tweaks to the void ray and medivac sooner as long as they dont crush the units' prospects a la reaper nerf 2010

DusTerr

2520 Posts

March 18 2013 14:48 GMT

#42

voted 1-3, but think it should be at the end of it (after 2 etc)

Mellon

Sweden917 Posts

March 18 2013 15:05 GMT

#43

On March 18 2013 14:12 kochanfe wrote:
Soon. Void Ray is game-breaking in PvP.

Ever tried opening blink stalkers and getting a freewin vs it?

vrok

Sweden2541 Posts

March 18 2013 15:12 GMT

#44

I just can't understand why they buffed/gave more options to both terran and protoss early game, but left zerg hang out to dry as usual. Zerg needs more early game stuff too, preferably ASAP. Burrow/OL speed before lair is useless. The only thing zergs have to be happy about is that Blizzard finally unnerfed hydras after 3 fucking years, and of course the viper for late game, late game being something that was never really a problem, but still, the viper is appreciated. Any eventual nerfs can wait until after zerg gets more options IMO, and PvT needs more time to be figured out anyway. MC proved that.

On a side note, and not necessarily balance related, I wish hellbats and widow mines made more sense. Mech units being healed by medivacs, free speed boost abilities, and widow mines actually being burrowed turrets that hit both ground and air instead of being, you know, mines, just screams out how badly fitting the units are. Never mind the unnecessary unit role overlap. I wish terran got goliaths instead. Goliaths are awesome.

achan1058

1091 Posts

March 18 2013 15:14 GMT

#45

I say about 3 months or so, maybe after 1 GSL.

W00tbeer1

United States33 Posts

March 18 2013 15:31 GMT

#46

Blizzard should wait for a few more tournaments to pass before they release a balance patch.

Aquila-

516 Posts

March 18 2013 15:33 GMT

#47

They should first wait for the meta to evolve. Protosses are complaining about drops but look at MC, opening oracle into phönix to deal with drops is already a very potent way. People probably just need to figure it out and then drops will be no problem.

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

March 18 2013 15:42 GMT

#48

I voted 6+ months. The longer we have a metagame revolving around early aggression instead of NR 15 into 200/200, the better. That was what all their patching did to WoL.

MrMatt

Canada225 Posts

March 18 2013 15:50 GMT

#49

leave it for a bit. I was worried about zerg but life was showing some good play that might catch on. I loved the aggressive plays at MLG and it made it entertaining. I hope they tweak slowly. Overall I am impressed with HOTS from watching it though.

And reading the comment above. I agree that it shouldn't be patched to NR 20. I hope they leave the aggressive options open because they aren't ridiculous now that we don't have maps like steppes and close position metal. I really hope the game stays entertaining from start to finish.

shivver

United States232 Posts

March 18 2013 16:00 GMT

#50

there should be a balance patch after every GSL final, if it is agreed there needs to be one.

TBone-

United States2309 Posts

March 18 2013 16:23 GMT

#51

You all should learn the story of Bisu before finalizing your opinion. For a few years pvz was considered impossible and unwinable. And then Bisu comes up with a build that revolutionizes the matchup and balances it out. So the only things we should consider changing are things that are either dumb or not interesting. Changes based on balance only should be used as an absolute LAST resort.

Exigaet

Canada355 Posts

March 18 2013 16:28 GMT

#52

I think everything is fine right now except for Void Rays. They should be toned down a little bit but I don't know how Blizzard can change them without making them pretty much useless again.

Juisson

Finland52 Posts

March 18 2013 16:42 GMT

#53

at the very least give it a couple of months and a full GSL season to see if patching is actually needed.

trada

Germany347 Posts

March 18 2013 16:45 GMT

#54

wheres the option "when its necessary"?

KristofferAG

Norway25712 Posts

March 18 2013 16:58 GMT

#55

On March 18 2013 14:04 ChuCky.Ca wrote:

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no nerfing plz just buff other races stuff

Yes, please tell people to get static defenses.

In all seriousness I'd think a patch shouldn't come more often than every 3 months unless there's a glaring imbalance in the game that really ruins the experience for spectators and players alike. Right now I'd say it can still wait around 3 months.

Serelitz

Netherlands2895 Posts

March 18 2013 18:47 GMT

#56

3 months minimum atm.

TheDougler

Canada8319 Posts

March 18 2013 19:04 GMT

#57

Such a hard question to answer. ZvZ needs to be fixed, and PvP might as well, but I think all other matchups are fine.

Gorilla23

United States339 Posts

March 18 2013 19:17 GMT

#58

On March 18 2013 12:41 iiGreetings wrote:
Honestly, I think 1 month is a little to soon even though I voted for 1-3. They really should let the meta evolve and let players really work the limitations of each race currently, and frankly, that probably won't be done by april 15th.

Voting in this did make me a bit uncomfortable. 1 month is very different than 3, but they are in the same category. I feel one month would be far too soon, but four would be too long if something became an obvious imbalance after two months of games in Code S and PL.

Exigaet

Canada355 Posts

March 18 2013 19:26 GMT

#59

On March 19 2013 04:04 TheDougler wrote:
Such a hard question to answer. ZvZ needs to be fixed, and PvP might as well, but I think all other matchups are fine.

Agreed. ZvZ being Muta-ling pretty much every single game is really boring.

rigelsc2

Philippines5 Posts

March 18 2013 19:26 GMT

#60

transformation servos should be buffed a bit (e.g. decreased cost or research time), to make hellbat comps present in the early midgame.