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Vortun
Profile Joined May 2012
42 Posts
March 18 2013 19:34 GMT
#61
Only in the case of emergency, if at all. Rampant nerfing kills games. Blizzard should instead look at buffing other units, give races tools to respond to the OP thing instead of straight up nerfing it.
BoondockVeritas
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
March 18 2013 20:17 GMT
#62
On March 18 2013 14:04 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 13:53 mizU wrote:
*cough* medivac speed boost *cough*

no nerfing plz just buff other races stuff


I want this to be the motto of blizzard when they do a patch. The medivac is entertaining to watch, but I'm fairly positive it'd be more entertaining if there was an answer for it. Turtle and lose macro or take third and get picked apart feels like lose lose. Having mc apm and control and skill to stop terran feels silly too. Time will tell I guess.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 18 2013 20:33 GMT
#63
I hope they wait till GSL at least, that should be the earliest. (Unless something RIDICULOUS comes about)
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IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
March 18 2013 20:39 GMT
#64
It's this double edged sword where you really want to see the pro's play in big tournaments so you actually can tell if something is truly imbalanced, but yet again you don't want someone to lose a tournament win because of balance issues lol.
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Scurvy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States117 Posts
March 18 2013 20:51 GMT
#65
Immediate action would be too rash, but waiting too long would be too dangerous. 1-3 months is a good period to wait for the first patching.
With it or on it.
syroz
Profile Joined September 2012
France249 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 21:32:19
March 18 2013 21:31 GMT
#66
The game is already very balance for my part. They did good job with beta. I hope that Blizzard will keep the spirit of WoL at the end when they were patient before nerfing units, despite the communauty pressure.
mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
March 18 2013 21:37 GMT
#67
Should wait a few months
1) zerg seems to have a higher ceiling as it seems they have more mechanics to work on between injects, micro, army control is harder, creep spread - there is a lot going on.
2) Lots of the top zerg players have not been represented n tourneys yet - wait until GSL
3) Lots of the top protoss and terrans have been playing Hots LONGER, because of zerg dominance in GSL - so they have been playing WoL & HoTs.... now they can be 100% dedicated to HOTS. Hello we had almost a full 8 zergs in round of 8 in GSL - it was ridiculous.
4) If changes are made- should be minor - maybe making the boos on medivacs eneergy based etc.... Game seems really balanced with lots of opening options for everyone. I am actually enjoying toss games now b/c I know it has other tech routes other than immortal sentry or end game.
5) Round of 4 at MLG was 1 Zerg, 1 Toss, 2 Terran. That is really balanced especially since the 2 terran are the 2 best terran right now in the world, the zerg was the best zerg alive right now, and the toss was top 3 toss alive.

MLG showed that this new game is very balanced and WAY more exciting. Minor tweaks no doubt will be needed - but don't knee jerk react, nerf everything and suddenly when Zergs get better we have a WoL all over again - that was 100% garbage.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 18 2013 21:39 GMT
#68
Please not yet

For the love of god, don't change what isn't broken
In the woods, there lurks..
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 18 2013 23:49 GMT
#69
On March 19 2013 06:39 Iplaythings wrote:
Please not yet

For the love of god, don't change what isn't broken

This is my feeling. In 3 months (thats why I chose 1-3) if something comes up, sure. Right now, the game is looking better than it ever really has.
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 05:21:25
March 19 2013 05:19 GMT
#70
After the first Hots GSL at the soonest and not a moment before that. Let people figure the game out. The people voting ASAP, why? How do you justify changing balance after a week?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
March 19 2013 05:45 GMT
#71
On March 18 2013 11:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I say 2-3 months. Soonest should be after gsl. Despite my complaints of ZvT and ZvP lategame, I do agree the zerg representation wasn't the best at IEM and MLG and the gsl should be a far better gauge of where zerg is on the top end.

A zerg won the tournament?

Don't jump the gun the game just came out.
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lost_artz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States366 Posts
March 19 2013 05:55 GMT
#72
Should at least wait a month to see how things pan out regardless of how small the change
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
March 19 2013 06:41 GMT
#73
I'd prefer option "as soon as needed"
xtyxtbx
Profile Joined December 2011
United States53 Posts
March 19 2013 08:20 GMT
#74
I think we should deff go through one more MLG and a GSL final before making a balance patch. One MLG tourny isn't going to solve it. However, balance isn't too bad. I just don't get how 2 oracles can kill 8 marines and still be alive. Makes no sense to me. But, other than that it's ~99% perfect atm.
Health of marine with combat sheild = 55. Ht's storm damage = 80. What blizzard?
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
March 19 2013 09:00 GMT
#75
Not before first gsl in hots!
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 10:10:25
March 19 2013 10:08 GMT
#76
On March 19 2013 14:45 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2013 11:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I say 2-3 months. Soonest should be after gsl. Despite my complaints of ZvT and ZvP lategame, I do agree the zerg representation wasn't the best at IEM and MLG and the gsl should be a far better gauge of where zerg is on the top end.

A zerg won the tournament?

Don't jump the gun the game just came out.


A Zerg named Life. He's kind of the best Zerg and probably best player in the world? Hell he even said Zerg is UP when interviewed right after winning, xD.

Also I'm not jumping anything. I did say I agree we should wait, however, I'm in agreement with Life that Zerg is UP thus far from playing and pro observation. I'm looking forward to gsl to see if any of the Korean Zergs have solutions, because as I said, MLG and IEM did not have the strongest Zergs compared to their protoss and terran counterparts. GSL does.
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purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
March 19 2013 12:55 GMT
#77
@Blizzard, please wait at least 2 more months until you even consider taking balance into your own hands.
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mr.grimm
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden63 Posts
March 19 2013 13:01 GMT
#78
Should wait atleast 3 months.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
March 19 2013 13:12 GMT
#79
On March 19 2013 19:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 14:45 thezanursic wrote:
On March 18 2013 11:45 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I say 2-3 months. Soonest should be after gsl. Despite my complaints of ZvT and ZvP lategame, I do agree the zerg representation wasn't the best at IEM and MLG and the gsl should be a far better gauge of where zerg is on the top end.

A zerg won the tournament?

Don't jump the gun the game just came out.


A Zerg named Life. He's kind of the best Zerg and probably best player in the world? Hell he even said Zerg is UP when interviewed right after winning, xD.

Also I'm not jumping anything. I did say I agree we should wait, however, I'm in agreement with Life that Zerg is UP thus far from playing and pro observation. I'm looking forward to gsl to see if any of the Korean Zergs have solutions, because as I said, MLG and IEM did not have the strongest Zergs compared to their protoss and terran counterparts. GSL does.

Players are biased. And even if he is the best zerg. He beat the best terrans and protosses.
-.-

Imagine if blizzard nerfed/buffed in BW whenever something seemed imba... In my opinion 3 months is the minimum time that blizzard should wait before changing ANYTHING
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 19 2013 13:21 GMT
#80
When it's utterly broken, if not then don't change a thing.
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