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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#101
1/3 months sound do it, i don't want another Terran abuse beta or a gom TvT over near a year of 2011, neither do i want a 6 month of Broodlord/Infestor turd turtle.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 20 2013 19:09 GMT
#102
Let the players figure out how to play by themselves, do not force down the throat changes based on seasonal trends
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
squanzo
Profile Joined May 2011
68 Posts
March 20 2013 19:24 GMT
#103
For the love of god, there is no single unit that dominates the game, so therefore I don't see any need for any changes for a very long time. Let's play the game. Stop changing things all the time.
InSpiReZerG
Profile Joined January 2010
United States159 Posts
March 20 2013 19:25 GMT
#104
Its also a fine line. Seeing almost all zergs lose to terran then getting on ladder and doing the same day in and day out when the other matchups at least feel winnable... the longer this goes on just promotes people quitting their race and or the game which is not what we want either. widow mine doesn't make much sense the way it hits everything and has aoe. i mean no one even makes tanks anymore.... clearly a problem with design.
Treacherous and impure, impious and murderous, Cadaverous yet living, dead to eyes but ever dreaming
Otak
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom110 Posts
March 20 2013 20:50 GMT
#105
On March 18 2013 18:07 Ackee wrote:
I'd say as long as takes before blizzard has figured out how to nerf protoss air play (Void Rays, Oracles) so it becomes weaker but not shit. I really like that protoss got a harass unit but what I don't understand is why it can kill marines.
.


What I don't understand is the mentality that marines MUST be able to easily beat any air units.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-20 21:23:52
March 20 2013 21:14 GMT
#106
Outrageous issues will make themselves obvious enough, obviously. They should be dealt with, but I do not see anything such on the cards, just a bunch of angry nerds whining because they lack dedication.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
March 20 2013 22:12 GMT
#107
How about "For an indefinite time" ? option
I mean : I Know teamliquid is all masters or diamonds, or some awesome shit ;.You guys ( diamonds and pearls and shit) complain a lot. Yet , most of MLG was WOL play .
when MC manages to go to semifinals trghu Oracles and penix" es
How the fuck can we call balance , nerf, OP, UP, etc?
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
March 21 2013 01:25 GMT
#108
Sorry to do the standard OP whining, but clearly Zerg is pretty weak against several Terran builds, as well as late-game PvP. If I were king for a day, blinding cloud would work against Mines and Air. If we are asking for the greatest demonstration of skill, the Viper is probably the hardest unit to use effectively in Starcraft. But the problem is, even when used correctly, it is worthless against WM and late game air/High Templar Protoss. Vipers are still worthless in Plat-Bronze, but the pros could make them worthwile if they worked on air castable abilities.
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
Crazypyro1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States446 Posts
March 21 2013 07:17 GMT
#109
Medivacs take 50% more dmg while boost. Widow mine splash reduced slightly.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
March 21 2013 11:29 GMT
#110
Poll: When should I visit a doctor?

This poll is retarded, just like the OP one. (15)
 
68%

After 6+ months / never. (3)
 
14%

As soon as possible. (2)
 
9%

After 1 - 3 months. (1)
 
5%

After 4 - 6 months. (1)
 
5%

22 total votes

Your vote: When should I visit a doctor?

(Vote): After 1 - 3 months.
(Vote): After 4 - 6 months.
(Vote): After 6+ months / never.
(Vote): As soon as possible.
(Vote): This poll is retarded, just like the OP one.



It all depends on how severe the symptoms are, and then it's almost trivial.
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
March 21 2013 15:08 GMT
#111
On March 18 2013 11:53 Prplppleatr wrote:
Wheres the option "when theres a glaring imbalance"


sounds good to me as well
its a stupid idea to put a date on it
right now Z seems weakest overall but thats natural since Z is more adaptive/less creative than the other two races.
what if Z figures out the timings and gets a buff?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 21 2013 20:20 GMT
#112
On March 21 2013 16:17 Crazypyro1 wrote:
Medivacs take 50% more dmg while boost. Widow mine splash reduced slightly.


No.

First let the players try to adapt (some are already doing particulary well, it means there's room for improvement for other players, which might not adapt as quickly, but will eventually ...).
Then see if there's imbalance somewhere...
Seriously, I'm tired of this, the balance change must happen AFTER players have tried to adapt... Not before when it's purely emotional and impulsive...
LiquipediaWanderer
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
March 21 2013 20:35 GMT
#113
LOL Nitereloaded your so right.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-21 21:30:09
March 21 2013 21:28 GMT
#114
It took zerg one and a half year to figure out the broodlord/infestor lategame win strategy. i say 2-4 months would be a great time, let one or two gsl season go through. When that is done, you can watch for balance issues. If there are any real balance issures, go patch ASAP. if there arent any - why do a patch?
Gprime
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada198 Posts
March 22 2013 02:18 GMT
#115
3ish months. not asap cuz it takes a while for things to settle into an observable pattern (of imba) and not much longer than 3 because at that point there should be some imbalances that are becoming apparent that can be fixed, and obviously you want to patch clear cases of imbalance as soon as possible.
diablo 3 killed my skill.
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
March 22 2013 04:19 GMT
#116
just buff zerg once and thats it:/
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
Iwik
Profile Joined March 2013
57 Posts
March 22 2013 07:31 GMT
#117
5-7 months and force people to adapt and innovate instead of crying TT
i admit there was a time in my life that i thought that putting my birthday in my username was cool
sihyunie
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
March 22 2013 15:24 GMT
#118
I'd say at least 2 seasons of GSL (about 5 months). During that time, we will also see a full season of GSTL and 1~2 rounds of Proleague (depending on when Yongsan construction finishes and Proleague resumes). That should give enough time for teams to crank out new strategies and figure out the metagame.
DjSweetBazz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 20:09:37
March 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#119
medivacs and window mines are stupidly strong, we zergs need a fix for this asap, ladder isnt fun anymore
WhalesFromSpace
Profile Joined March 2012
390 Posts
March 22 2013 20:36 GMT
#120
On March 23 2013 05:09 DjSweetBazz wrote:
medivacs and window mines are stupidly strong, we zergs need a fix for this asap, ladder isnt fun anymore

Micro is good against mines!
Nihility
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