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Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
August 27 2012 14:42 GMT
#81
Personally, Starcraft has kind of gone beyond the point of just wanting to see the best matches. I only watch matches nowadays if there's a player whom I like or some interesting story line. I honestly could not give a fuck about watching some super high level game between jjakji, keen, bomber or hyun (just to name people from GSL tonight) because they just don't interest me at all and there is no story line or any reason for me to emotionally feel a part of their triumphs and losses. I only watched GSL tonight because Mana was playing in it and I only watched his games because I think he's cool and there was an issue to keep me interested and vested in his process.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 14:58:34
August 27 2012 14:57 GMT
#82
The two aren't even mutually exclusive. I prefer to watch good games with new, rising talent from various countries.

The actual problem is that there is barely any rising non-korean talent. All the crying about 'they're all koreans' is flat out pathetic. You should be crying about how the western teams, all with significantly more money and sponsorships than the korean teams, are failing to produce talent and are instead hanging on to players that haven't been relevant in terms of gameplay since early beta.

It's the 'foreign' teams failing you, not tournament organizers.
Black17
Profile Joined October 2011
France435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 15:02:35
August 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#83
I like to watch the upcoming talents from my country ! For example, Stephano seems quite promising :p
-shArk-
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany150 Posts
August 27 2012 15:04 GMT
#84
the best players for sure. watching the top koreans is much more entertaining than watching good and solid rising foreigners.
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Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
August 27 2012 15:13 GMT
#85
I need to have some sort of emotional investment in the players. If I watch a Korean based league I have no problem with cheering for them but seeing (almost) only Koreans in the top 8 of a foreign tournament defeats the fun for me (and I don´t watch those rounds anymore). I watch those tournaments because I want to see the foreign players play. If I want to see only Koreans I watch the GSL.

It might not be the highest quality games but I find more fun in cheering for it. That´s also why I don´t watch the English/Spanish football competitions but the Dutch. The English/Spanish games are much better in quality on average but I just don´t have an emotional investment or connection with those teams.
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SkyHighEyes
Profile Joined February 2012
United States11 Posts
August 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#86
I watch GSL for the best players. I'd rather see rising talent at any other tournament.

I also really liked the WCS format this year because having a bunch of sub-tournaments limited by nation and then region gave some rising talent a fighting chance and let us really get a look at what's out there. A Korean will probably win it all, but I'm glad I got to see a Europe-only tournament and an NA-only tournament before then.
DevilofDeath
Profile Joined February 2011
United States73 Posts
August 27 2012 16:51 GMT
#87
Sounds very much like a "Would you rather watch College Football or the NFL" poll.

Except its eSports style; and unfortunately eSports looks so much more beautiful when its the best players playing.
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Xlancer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
August 27 2012 17:29 GMT
#88
On August 26 2012 08:08 MCXD wrote:
Favourite players > Best players > Rising players

But frankly, a combination of the three is always the best. That's why semi-invite semi-open systems seem to work well.

This is exactly how I feel too
“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.” - Friedrich Hegel
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24241 Posts
August 27 2012 18:15 GMT
#89
Stephano is my favorite to watch. Not from my country but I love his interviews and his attitude.

Favourite players > Best players > Rising players.... is correct.

I rarely watch any matches without a zerg opponent also so that is probably the biggest part for me... Although if we got some pro's who really didn't like each other that could make for some interesting matches too.

For all the team owners out there if you really want to be successfull don't forget to teach your players some PR skills along with SC2 strats
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ff7legend
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States213 Posts
August 27 2012 18:39 GMT
#90
Watching a countries rising player and what not gives you a more emotional connection to the player and the games. they mean that much more to you, ya they may not give the best games but you'll be much more invested into the games regardless. At least thats my view
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LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
August 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#91
A mix of both really. I don't care much for Swedish players unless they can compete internationally. If they can though I'll probably root for them though, except if they're playing my favourites of course.
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#92
Eh, a little of both!
RedFive
Profile Joined July 2012
United States4 Posts
August 28 2012 01:53 GMT
#93
Of course a combination is best. I really like seeing what foreigners can do against the giants of the game.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. - The Dude
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 28 2012 06:02 GMT
#94
This is not the right question imo.
A tournament with the best possible players will always trump a tournament with rising talents.
The question should be - should there be more tournaments with rising talents? And my answer is yes, yes, yes!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
August 28 2012 10:47 GMT
#95
in france we are lucky since we can do both when stephano is playing the tournament :p
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
executorx
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany81 Posts
August 28 2012 12:31 GMT
#96
well i dont care about socke, hasuobs or darkforce if i can watch some MVP or Bomber games. :D

nationalities arent important.
INnoVation > ALL!
Adellund
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark92 Posts
August 28 2012 13:24 GMT
#97
why don't they invite the best current of each nation and make 200$ invitationals ? I would love to see ThorZain vs BaByKnight (Denmark vs Sweden ) and NesTea vs Sen ( Taiwan vs Korea )
If you put RoRo on your anti-team you should be ashamed!
Exya
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada54 Posts
August 28 2012 14:51 GMT
#98
I like to watch Huk and the best players.. if only he was the best player too
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
August 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#99
I like both, but especially at live events, I like to watch the up and coming players/ ones that are not super well known by most people. Like at MLG I watched the crap outta the LighT guys, and they had some sick games vs. top notch players :D
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 28 2012 16:20 GMT
#100
I like the players I like. Be it because of the way they play, their personality, their story or their team. The one thing I never cared for was which country that person was from.
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