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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 26 2012 01:32 GMT
#21
I want a mixture. I want a tournament with the best players in the world and rising players. Hopefully, some of the rising players can make it to the ro4. I also want Liquid`Ret.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1092 Posts
August 26 2012 01:59 GMT
#22
On August 26 2012 10:29 Oiseaux wrote:
Both, but considering there seems to be plenty of outlets for the best of the best, I chose the up and comer option.

Almost the exact same opinion as this guy. I want a combination of both, either in the same tournament or separate, but right now we mostly get the best vs the best. So I voted for up and comers. If I stopped getting best vs best, I'd be pretty disappointed though.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
mahkan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States153 Posts
August 26 2012 02:30 GMT
#23
I like both really.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
August 26 2012 02:40 GMT
#24
I would prefer a combination of the both.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
August 26 2012 02:41 GMT
#25
Why is Best players not at 100% ?
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 26 2012 03:50 GMT
#26
yeeeee!!!!! more polls!!!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
strayd
Profile Joined November 2011
United States9 Posts
August 26 2012 03:58 GMT
#27
Don't really care which county, just enjoy rising talent.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12104 Posts
August 26 2012 05:20 GMT
#28
I occasionally watch sc2 now a days. Mostly when I am bored, only time I plan watching something is when a player I like will be playing, so I choose of my nation. Since my nation is an attribute that increases interest.
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
August 26 2012 06:02 GMT
#29
I always keep up with my favorite players and enjoy their games more, regardless of whether they lose.
This poll left out a few options it seems.

eg. qxc, Mvp, NaDa (before retiring ofc)
and my axe
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
August 26 2012 06:31 GMT
#30
If I could only have one, I would choose the most skilled players. If everyone were an up-and-comer, then it could be difficult to tell how great they actually are. It would also be more anti-climactic having lesser known players beat lesser known players. Having just players known to be the best should have the best games.

This poll seems to imply we could only have players from one of the two categories. Thankfully all tournaments have both. Maybe not rising talent so much as underdogs however.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
August 26 2012 07:14 GMT
#31
This is what happened for the olympics, I was on vacation in France and all the tv was showing was french players instead of only showing gold medalists and real talent. I prefer to see real talent, it is awesome to see a new talent but they need to become as good as the "old" top-players before they are on big tournaments.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 07:52:46
August 26 2012 07:52 GMT
#32
I would have liked a third option..
I prefer to watch huge open brackets with both best players and unknowns. So that we see rising stars in actions proving their valor.

If the best players play against the best, you don't really know who's lacking skills recently.
If rising stars play against other national talents, you only see a mid level tournament with some winner defeating low-mid level players.
If both get matched up, you can truly see everyone's valor.

That's why i like MLGs.Who would have put EifeR or goswser in a tournament featuring the best players ?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 26 2012 08:23 GMT
#33
More fair question would be, do you only care about watching the best players or do you want to see rising national talent too?
this one is too easy to answer
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
August 26 2012 08:40 GMT
#34
This is why I don't like watching the MLG. You neither can watch the best players because they're seeded into the end games so they only play a few games, and there are so many games that you can't watch players you like or the underdog.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
August 26 2012 10:40 GMT
#35
Neither;

I prefer watching the best players that I actually know something about, for the same reason that I watch my garbage soccer league instead of high-profile leagues - cos I can get emotionally invested, I know them, and in the case of SC, I even played some of them.

Random (not derogatory, I hope it's clear) koreans just raise 0 interest in me, even if they qualified for being good players

cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
August 26 2012 10:56 GMT
#36
On August 26 2012 06:47 Ettick wrote:
I like watching rising talent take on the best players, so it's a mix of both lol


this.
option missing.
Live and let live
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 26 2012 11:02 GMT
#37
"Rising national talent?" Inform me when the USA has some.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 26 2012 11:33 GMT
#38
Where is the "I like to watch Jaedong" option ?
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 26 2012 12:19 GMT
#39
I like watching stylish players. Not the guys who rage, but the guys who have figured out how they like to play the game.
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
August 26 2012 12:41 GMT
#40
I like both at the same time. A tournament with just the top 16 players in the world wouldnt get the highest viewership. A tournament with just 1-2 representatives of their respective countries wont get the highest viewership either (hello WCS Global).

Its the mixture that gets you. People want to see upsets. You wont have any upsets if you let the 16 best players in the world duke it out.
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