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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
October 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#161
T>Z>P has been for awhile now. Buff toss and all should be well, i play random
Reppin405
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9 Posts
October 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#162
atm terran can still make 1 unit and win the game but they wont nerf marines because then terran becomes to weakest race so i thing the game is balanced but marines still tilt me
livelifetothefullest.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
October 17 2011 13:58 GMT
#163
Korean Terrans = OP
But otherwise the game is very balanced right now
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
jkos86
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
October 17 2011 13:58 GMT
#164
I agree zerg is the strongest, just lacking in top players. Zerg is always ahead on bases and hence always gets the defenders advantage. The maps are big enough such that a top zerg should be able to hold off any rushes and can go into macro mode. Once zerg goes 3base+ they have a insanely huge advantage.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
October 17 2011 14:03 GMT
#165
On October 17 2011 22:58 jkos86 wrote:
I agree zerg is the strongest, just lacking in top players. Zerg is always ahead on bases and hence always gets the defenders advantage. The maps are big enough such that a top zerg should be able to hold off any rushes and can go into macro mode. Once zerg goes 3base+ they have a insanely huge advantage.


Zerg was always ahead on bases in BW too.. does that mean Zerg is imbalanced in BW?

"Once zerg goes 3base+ they have a insanely huge advantage."
what a silly statement lol
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IGotPlayguuu
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy660 Posts
October 17 2011 14:27 GMT
#166
at least now toss can't complain anymore...
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:32:20
October 17 2011 14:29 GMT
#167
I think they need to remake the game for Heart of the Swarm. A player should not be able to get away by only making 1 unit (Marine). Besides the fact that the marine is too strong I think the game is somewhat fine.

Zerg vs Terran / Protoss is the most exciting matchup due to the fact that the Z has to react and be as greedy as possible + Show Spoiler +
Idra vs Bomber series was amazing....



I also feel that the unites overall are too strong. Meaning that you are screwed if you choose the wrong tech tree vs the oponent. There are too much countering in the unit (mainly thinking about the + damage vs armored, + damage light).
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Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
October 17 2011 14:41 GMT
#168
Terran massing 2 units still bothers me. I voted no.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 17 2011 14:46 GMT
#169
On October 17 2011 23:41 Roeder wrote:
Terran massing 2 units still bothers me. I voted no.


you mean like zerg masses lings and banelings? sigh
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Xenclamz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
October 17 2011 14:53 GMT
#170
yeah anyone who argues marines are op. well can't i just argue zerglings are op? both are t1 units. zerg uses zerglings start to finish. and their core is always involving a t1 unit. cant i say the say for zealots too? if you dont use zealots as a protoss your stalkers get killed in a heartbeat. if you make tanks and thors without marines how can you expect to survive massling? If you make zero lings and just roaches you are lacking any form of surround. IMO, the game is balanced fine. It was zerg bitching about being UP, when you have pros like stephano, idra, and nestea playing zerg the way it should be played. HuK and MC play protoss the way it should be played. And korean terrans know the proper way to play terran. the game is fine on balance.
Xenclamz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
October 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#171
On October 17 2011 22:50 Reppin405 wrote:
atm terran can still make 1 unit and win the game but they wont nerf marines because then terran becomes to weakest race so i thing the game is balanced but marines still tilt me


before you whine about terran being overpowered, please at least use proper words such as Think* not thing.
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 14:56:56
October 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#172
On October 17 2011 23:46 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 23:41 Roeder wrote:
Terran massing 2 units still bothers me. I voted no.


you mean like zerg masses lings and banelings? sigh

You don't see anyone going lings+banelings only after +15 minutes.

All I'm saying is.. marines good, man.


On October 17 2011 23:55 Xenclamz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 22:50 Reppin405 wrote:
atm terran can still make 1 unit and win the game but they wont nerf marines because then terran becomes to weakest race so i thing the game is balanced but marines still tilt me


before you whine about terran being overpowered, please at least use proper words such as Think* not thing.

Before you post, please at least contribute with something.
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
October 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#173
As a zerg player, I think PvT has been a little questionable, but MC and Huk proved that it is more balanced than what we've seen in the past. So a little I guess.
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#174
I believe that the game is pretty much balance right now. There are obviously things which look rather overpowered in the game, but I guess that they aren't really, as it is only a matter of opinion. Spellcasters need a small tweak I think, otherwise I am quite happy with the current state of the game. Nobody can argue that some race is stronger than the others just because of it's prominence in leagues such as the GSL. It is pretty obvious why most players in the GSL are Terrans, because many SC2 players' first choice of race is Terran. I do not exactly know why, but I think it has to do with the fact that the Terran race resembles our human race the most, and therefore many people are inclined to play as Terran.

Good job so far by Blizzard and let's hope that they'll leave the game alone for a while so that we may see how balance progresses.
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ZerG_OverlorD
Profile Joined May 2011
United States16 Posts
October 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#175
Zerg won IPL3 Toss won MLG Orlando... nobody is complaining about terran ^^

No opinion change I think game is balanced. Not completely balanced but balanced enough so everybody has equal opportunities throughout the races
Cynic is the shit
Xenclamz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States4 Posts
October 17 2011 15:12 GMT
#176
On October 17 2011 23:55 Roeder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 23:46 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On October 17 2011 23:41 Roeder wrote:
Terran massing 2 units still bothers me. I voted no.


you mean like zerg masses lings and banelings? sigh

You don't see anyone going lings+banelings only after +15 minutes.

All I'm saying is.. marines good, man.


Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 23:55 Xenclamz wrote:
On October 17 2011 22:50 Reppin405 wrote:
atm terran can still make 1 unit and win the game but they wont nerf marines because then terran becomes to weakest race so i thing the game is balanced but marines still tilt me


before you whine about terran being overpowered, please at least use proper words such as Think* not thing.

Before you post, please at least contribute with something.


i did if you look above my post there.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 17 2011 15:25 GMT
#177
On October 17 2011 13:39 thingULTRA wrote:
gsl is still all terran..... sigh



Well yeah, its so hard for different players to get shifted out of the gsl because of the format. It takes what, three months for a code s player to get knocked out of the entire gsl?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 17:31:57
October 17 2011 15:29 GMT
#178
I'm not a fan of players "balancing" the game by inventing strategies rather than the developer fixing the game, so nothing has changed, we still need SC3.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 17 2011 15:40 GMT
#179
On October 17 2011 22:58 kochanfe wrote:
Korean Terrans = OP
But otherwise the game is very balanced right now


Can you elaborate on that?
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
GhostBusters
Profile Joined July 2010
United States198 Posts
October 17 2011 15:43 GMT
#180
I think you can be satisfied with the balance, though i do believe something about terran is still too strong =/
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