Game is fairly balanced, terran is most powerful because of the early allins being unscoutable. Basically terran has huge win% in <10min games, while still holding around 50% or higher in long games. Bunkerrush just needs a nerf since it's apparently too hard to defend even if you know it's coming in zvt, and 1-1-1/2rax openings are fine in pvt if it was simply possible to know they were coming. It's really small tweaks that would make the racial balance quite balanced even for GSL.

rockerman101

United States85 Posts

October 17 2011 11:07 GMT

#142

terran is a bit op we may have had two protoss in the mlg finals but u base balance off the top level of play and that is the gsl code s which right now terrans are dominating

choopakabra

53 Posts

October 17 2011 11:19 GMT

#143

T>Z>P

Paladia

802 Posts

October 17 2011 11:21 GMT

#144

At the highest level of play Terran is still by far ahead of Protoss. However, I think the worst imbalance right now is PvP, which is basically an advanced coin toss (to cite Huk in this MLG).

It is due to a couple of reasons, the main one being that Protoss offence is equal to its defense in the early to mid-game. Protoss should get one or two more defensive buildings to sort that out. Terran already has 4 defensive buildings, Bunker, Turret, Sentry Tower and PF. Zerg has 2.5, Spore Crawler, Spine Crawler and Creep tumour. Protoss has one, Photon cannon.

With a better defense, such as an aoe shield battery or alike, PvP would be more balanced, it would also make P less vulnerable to early terran aggression.

Onox

United States1072 Posts

October 17 2011 11:22 GMT

#145

I've thought for the most part balance is just fine. @_@ Things will work themselves out.

teddyoojo

Germany22369 Posts

October 17 2011 11:28 GMT

#146

no, i always knew protoss is op
mark my words.

ZeroSix

England54 Posts

October 17 2011 11:45 GMT

#147

i still think zerg needs some buffs on the hydra and corruptor. i also think helions should cost between 25-50 gas and i doubt that will change.

Xcobidoo

Sweden1871 Posts

October 17 2011 11:50 GMT

#148

I think there's mostly problems in which race is powerful when. Especially in the ZvT matchup, Terran has some powerful timings/early-mid game but if they don't do enough damage then the high tech units from zerg overpower them. It's not all that fun watching one player at a time have to be on the defensive...

SharkStarcraft

Austria2226 Posts

October 17 2011 11:56 GMT

#149

Not at all. Terran's still op.

FearOFailure

Australia9 Posts

October 17 2011 12:03 GMT

#150

No, the only reason people may have thought the game was imbalanced in the first place is because of Code S (being so Terran favored), but you could say that with almost all of the GSL's.

Noocta

France12578 Posts

October 17 2011 12:10 GMT

#151

Dunno if i had to but will in case :
+ Show Spoiler +

People seems to forget, Huk made 1er of a group with a bad ZvP player and 3 other protoss. Then had to play a recently come back terran, and another protoss. It's not like he had to play any match where balance could be an issue.

ackbar

United States94 Posts

October 17 2011 12:20 GMT

#152

Game is balanced. Nothing to see here. Move along.

cari-kira

Germany655 Posts

October 17 2011 12:26 GMT

#153

funny question, the mlg-winner huk only played 1 PvT in the whole tournament, and that was against a mkp that played more like a clown, not like a code s player. 1 PvZ aganist a july in even worde shape, and the rest were all PvPs.
how should this affect my opinion about balance?

CurrrBell

United States67 Posts

October 17 2011 12:27 GMT

#154

My opinions about balance weren't like most whiners' in the first place.

Firkraag8

Sweden1006 Posts

October 17 2011 12:48 GMT

#155

I did not consider it imbalanced in the first place, so no my opinion has not changed.

Gotmog

Serbia899 Posts

October 17 2011 12:59 GMT

#156

No, Terran is still to well designed. (EDIT: "better designed")

I actually am of the opinion that P/Z players will start to dominate Terrans for a while (starting now, or soon, or after next patch), purely on the account that everyone on the Top level is practicing almost exclusively mu vT.

SeriouR

Spain622 Posts

October 17 2011 13:20 GMT

#157

basically toss will keep on having a hard time playing a macro game agains both terran and zerg when they figure out the new ways of doing timing pushes.

Maxinho

Brazil11 Posts

October 17 2011 13:28 GMT

#158

I thought the game was fine, but after seeing Idra almost loosing to only marines.... Got me thinking that marine is Imba!

Jampackedeon

United States2053 Posts

October 17 2011 13:38 GMT

#159

I felt that protoss was too strong going into the tournie (zerg player, so am biased), but seeing high level players all come out very evenly moved me somewhat more towards this being an almost balanced game from being a somewhat unbalanced game (not much though).

callthecops

United States24 Posts

October 17 2011 13:40 GMT

#160

If anything, zerg is stronger than the other two races.. but for the most part the game is balanced.