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Must say that the "Hero of the Year" was quite a boring pick, but probably the most appropriate one!
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Cable
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Must say that the "Hero of the Year" was quite a boring pick, but probably the most appropriate one! | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:47 TylerDurdenn wrote: They need atleast a full year to be compared with tobiwan not just *end of the year* will make them good. Tobi was the stable caster for as long as i remember and he is doing a great job with that. I love LD and BTS team aswell but Tobi is something different he is the one made so many people love this game Sorry but the TI2 controversy showed how unprofessional tobi is, a person that'd do something like that does not deserve caster of the year award at all. Not to mention that tobis ingame knowlede has not increased since the start of the year while LD has shown loads of improvement and has surpassed tobi in this regard by now. + Show Spoiler + Like synderen explaining tobi 4 times in one game that ancients were magic immune | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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GutShot9
Canada46 Posts
GJ Great Post! | ||
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YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
I think he missed his flight but I guess thats not it :a | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
I haven't played dota for years but I still watch it from time to time! Loved the bait video >:O | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On January 17 2013 17:15 YoucriedWolf wrote: What did tobi do in TI2? I cant remember anything I think he missed his flight but I guess thats not it :a Valve asked him to cast a game(MUFC vs TongFu, I think), and Tobi instead decided to cast a game he thought would be more interesting which already had a caster, leaving the other match uncasted. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 18 2013 01:10 Elyvilon wrote: And then went on trying to defend his decision saying that he knows better what games are good and basically ignoring the point of allocating games. Really just coming off as a completely self-centered asshole.Valve asked him to cast a game(MUFC vs TongFu, I think), and Tobi instead decided to cast a game he thought would be more interesting which already had a caster, leaving the other match uncasted. http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/yxngv/anyone_know_why_tobi_isnt_casting_ig_vs_tongfu/c5zrvdw And then apology: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/yxyih/tobiwan_refusing_to_cast_international_matches_on/c5ztmob | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
I would have picked iG vs LGD when it was a Syllabear vs Morphling match, with epic fights throughout the entire game, and a massive comeback by iG. Yes there were some mistakes by Sylar in the match (such as not buying a full 10 sec bkb when he had the gold) but overall it was extremely high quality, and one of the best matches of the year in terms of overall execution and entertainment. | ||
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CrushDog5
Canada207 Posts
Best Dota 2 journalism: TeamLiquid.net Consistently stellar write-ups, guys. Thanks. | ||
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
And how can Tobi not win? For LD? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 18 2013 08:22 Dracolich70 wrote: A bit China-centric. And how can Tobi not win? For LD? Well of course it's china-centric when they have proven to be the better players. And how tobi didn't win? As has already been pointed out it's a combination of LD improving loads, becoming a great caster while tobi hasn't really improven at all and the whole TI2 controversy and so on. He hasn't proven to be professional as a caster at all. It's been explained a few times already. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Feel like Chuan deserves the support champion but he is already C-God so i guess we can have Faith this time. LD totally deserves that. I dont quite like his casting (he is still the best western caster for me) but his passion and actively inviting interesting cocaster to cast with him is very admirable. Well done LD!! | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 18 2013 09:54 Unleashing wrote: Have they?Well of course it's china-centric when they have proven to be the better players. And how tobi didn't win? As has already been pointed out it's a combination of LD improving loads, becoming a great caster while tobi hasn't really improven at all and the whole TI2 controversy and so on. He hasn't proven to be professional as a caster at all. So one that has improved more must win? Tobi has been the backbone of the growth of Dota all year.TI2 controversy, hehe. Of course Tobi was pissed. He has the knowledge of what games turns out good, and had done the most for the growth of DotA, including casting TI1. Tobi not professional? He has casted when very sick. Has casted more games/tournaments than anyone. Always gives 100%, to the point where it is no longer healthy. Since this nomination is so TI2-centric, just listen to the casts of Tobi in those, and compare it with the others. Tobi makes those games even more memorable. It's been explained a few times already. Doesn't make it more educated. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 18 2013 14:42 Dracolich70 wrote: Casting games while sick just demonstrates jD's incompetence. If people want to really believe they're doing so much for the scene how can they have the biggest channel for over a year and still only support one caster?Have they? So one that has improved more must win? Tobi has been the backbone of the growth of Dota all year. TI2 controversy, hehe. Of course Tobi was pissed. He has the knowledge of what games turns out good, and had done the most for the growth of DotA, including casting TI1. Tobi not professional? He has casted when very sick. Has casted more games/tournaments than anyone. Always gives 100%, to the point where it is no longer healthy. Since this nomination is so TI2-centric, just listen to the casts of Tobi in those, and compare it with the others. Tobi makes those games even more memorable. Doesn't make it more educated. No one is questioning Tobi's dedication but dedication doesn't make you any more intelligent or good at your job. It doesn't make you more receptive to the community. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On January 18 2013 17:13 teapoted wrote: The question was whether or not he was professional, not jD. If it was a popularity contest, Tobi would definitively win too. That a vocal minority for some odd reason find it prober to show their disliking, is the typical rebel without a cause-behaviour, for someone popular.Casting games while sick just demonstrates jD's incompetence. If people want to really believe they're doing so much for the scene how can they have the biggest channel for over a year and still only support one caster? No one is questioning Tobi's dedication but dedication doesn't make you any more intelligent or good at your job. It doesn't make you more receptive to the community. That Tobi is not given the prize, can only be a personal insult. He has paved the way for so many other casters, and has casted more than twice the second in line with more viewers than anyone. Are you saying Tobi is not competent at his job? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On January 18 2013 14:42 Dracolich70 wrote: Have they? So one that has improved more must win? Tobi has been the backbone of the growth of Dota all year. TI2 controversy, hehe. Of course Tobi was pissed. He has the knowledge of what games turns out good, and had done the most for the growth of DotA, including casting TI1. Tobi not professional? He has casted when very sick. Has casted more games/tournaments than anyone. Always gives 100%, to the point where it is no longer healthy. Since this nomination is so TI2-centric, just listen to the casts of Tobi in those, and compare it with the others. Tobi makes those games even more memorable. Doesn't make it more educated. Yes, china has proven to have the better players. Nice strawman, i did not say anything about that the one that improved the most has to win. And he might've been pissed, doesn't make it any less unprofessional what he did. It proved that he did not know his place. He was assigned games, he should follow the assigned games. He left games without english coverage and pretty much told the teams "Sorry, your games aren't going to be important for the outcome of the group stages" which is offensive to a minimum of one of the teams. And sorry but no, it's the OPPOSITE of professional to not take a break when you need it, it's not professional to cast while being sick, at all. And sorry but i didn't listen to tobi because in most games it was nothing short of annoying, it was only when he had synderen with him that it was watcheable for me. Yes tobi has been the one to cast the most game, which is due to how few casters there was earlier this year for dota2, this has gone up by now and there is a reason as to why the jD streams are getting fewer and fewer viewers compared to other streams with the very same game. What tobi did at TI2 was unspectful to valve, the viewers and the teams. On January 18 2013 20:34 Dracolich70 wrote: The question was whether or not he was professional, not jD. If it was a popularity contest, Tobi would definitively win too. That a vocal minority for some odd reason find it prober to show their disliking, is the typical rebel without a cause-behaviour, for someone popular. That Tobi is not given the prize, can only be a personal insult. He has paved the way for so many other casters, and has casted more than twice the second in line with more viewers than anyone. Are you saying Tobi is not competent at his job? It has nothing to do with "rebel without a cause-behaviour" and nothing to do with him being more popular. Dendi is most likely the more popular player too compared to ferrari, doesn't really mean anything in regards to quality. Because ferrari is the overall better player. And yes, i do not think tobi is competent at casting on his own at all. Without a good professional player to fill the massive black hole(No pun intended) that is tobi's lack of game knowledge i find it a pain to watch tobi cast. If not LD i would've given the prize to v1lat or draskyll. | ||
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