EPTTeam Liquid's Dota 2 Awards 2012 - Page 10
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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choe
Germany86 Posts
i really dont wanna see dota2 having the same issue as sc2 has when caster gettin more important then players. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34504 Posts
On January 16 2013 23:26 choe wrote: that caster of the year stuff should be removed, rest is totally awesome! i really dont wanna see dota2 having the same issue as sc2 has when caster gettin more important then players. ~10 of the awards are to players/teams. 1 is to a caster. Relax mate ~ | ||
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TylerDurdenn
Turkey6 Posts
Edit: Not like LD is a great caster too. But Tobiwan was the caster of the yeard 2012 he has been the best since dota was actually being casted online | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:13 TylerDurdenn wrote: His knowledge certainly is remarkable, you got that right.I think caster is a really important part of dota2 since they observe and cast at the same time unlike Starcraft 2. And games are more exciting than any other game so the casters should be enthuastic aswell. However i seriously dont agree with TL's decision at all there is only one and only great caster at dota scene who is TOBIWAN his contribution to the dota community the perfect and almost every day casting of his remarkable. LD may be have a good casting lately but no caster is comparible with tobiwan right now his deep knowledge well used voice is just remarkable. He is by far the best English caster right now | ||
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:16 teapoted wrote: His knowledge certainly is remarkable, you got that right. Tobi has great energy, great voice but he barely know what's going on lol. Rewatch the nth roshan bait with tobi clip: Furion Dies Tobi: Admiralbulldog giving a freebie. Godz: And here we go! Tobi: .. Hehe Godz: Game is on! Tobi: <still not understanding anything mumbles> Godz: The bait is lain! Tobi: There's a small blood patch where admiralbulldog used to be Godz: <god what do i need to say to get him to understand> ITS A TRAP! Tobi: .. OH! | ||
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TylerDurdenn
Turkey6 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
You're complaining about professionalism but you're wanting jD to get a mention? Tobi isn't some new caster, he's been around for ages. He got a big boost because he casted TI1. If he didn't jD would have never gotten as popular as it was. We see the same thing with the people who casted TI2. And Tobi doesn't run jD anyway, how do we know what other casters would have done with the opportunity to get a full-time salary and a studio? We don't, so judge on the quality of the actual casting. If you think that's better that's fine. To me the biggest difference between BTS (and that extends to LD) and all other orgs is that they listen to feedback and make changes, quickly. They make changes to improve their broadcast or casting without needing people to make a fuzz about it as well. Hell, there was a post on reddit that got upvoted to the top that said all casters pronounce Aegis wrong. 1 changed, and it was LD. | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:35 TylerDurdenn wrote: Yeah he slipped out he couldnt understand the bait. It is tobiwan who gives you the nerd chills at the fight not Godz. I call the guy caster if he can make me excited like that. He casted 10 times more games than any other dota caster it is fine if he makes mistakes it is not huge failure or something. But TL not mentioning him on 2012 Awards it is just so sad. I always tought TL is a site with proffesionality now i think they are doing this to get more attention on dota news section to beat joindota. They shouldnt forget that if joindota hasnt got this scene this big they wouldnt even pick dota 2 as a new game on TL With all the drama involving Tobi and considering how badly BeyondTheSummit and LD beat them at the end of the year in quite literally every aspect of casting/streaming, Tobi is really not in the run vs. LD. | ||
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-inflames-
Norway38 Posts
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Lamora
23 Posts
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TylerDurdenn
Turkey6 Posts
On January 17 2013 00:53 Bumblebee wrote: With all the drama involving Tobi and considering how badly BeyondTheSummit and LD beat them at the end of the year in quite literally every aspect of casting/streaming, Tobi is really not in the run vs. LD. They need atleast a full year to be compared with tobiwan not just *end of the year* will make them good. Tobi was the stable caster for as long as i remember and he is doing a great job with that. I love LD and BTS team aswell but Tobi is something different he is the one made so many people love this game | ||
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Nvar
Denmark150 Posts
On January 16 2013 02:34 Nvar wrote: Also Mushi is an outstanding carry, if he was on a better team, he would destroy the world! Didnt see that he had joined Zenith, this can be something really good! | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:22 Lamora wrote: The awards were mostly very nice but I disagree with Faith in best support when AA should have come on top for me and I disagree with the format of the player awards, as I think the 1 per position award gives us more of the bigger picture. The reason you can't do 1 per position is that a lot of teams are doing it differently. Not all teams have a set 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. They have heroes and think of it differently when choosing who plays what rather than what farming position they have on the team. | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:47 TylerDurdenn wrote: They need atleast a full year to be compared with tobiwan not just *end of the year* will make them good. Tobi was the stable caster for as long as i remember and he is doing a great job with that. I love LD and BTS team aswell but Tobi is something different he is the one made so many people love this game Don't get me wrong, I do like Tobi. He does a lot of good, but I also agree with the fact that I don't think he's in the run for caster of the year based on what has happened throughout the year -- one of them being The International. Also I disagree with you a lot on your perspective on caster's knowledge. I, for one, believe they need to know a lot about the game and not continue to say things that are just out right wrong. This happens too often. | ||
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Lamora
23 Posts
On January 17 2013 02:03 Bumblebee wrote: The reason you can't do 1 per position is that a lot of teams are doing it differently. Not all teams have a set 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. They have heroes and think of it differently when choosing who plays what rather than what farming position they have on the team. You do have a good point, but I would still prefer the "1 per position" style. I don't think it's that hard to implement and you would have a full team. Having your own team liquid as example, if I had to nominate a position 1 for TL, I would nominate Korok 100%, because I tink he is the best farm-oriented player of the team while I would nominate Bulba for position 2 because between he, korok and TC, I think he does the better job. Ganker, support and carry are not enough to describe most players. For instance, Pajkatt plays 1 for LGD.int but nowadays I consider him battle oriented position 1 due to LGD's strategys. He is not a ricer carry, the opposite may be said for burning. ps.: Sorry for any english mistakes. | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On January 17 2013 01:47 TylerDurdenn wrote: They need atleast a full year to be compared with tobiwan not just *end of the year* will make them good. Tobi was the stable caster for as long as i remember and he is doing a great job with that. I love LD and BTS team aswell but Tobi is something different he is the one made so many people love this game I totally agree with this post. LD might really be a good caster, no doubt about that. Yet most of the time I´m listening to Tobi, cause it is simply the most fun. And it just happens, thet there is downtime on his stream, thats why I have the time to post here! Anyway, let me repeat: great read! | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
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Alaron
United States225 Posts
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MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
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