[Code S] Semi-Finals Recap + Interviews - Page 10

On May 13 2012 21:34 Thruth wrote:
Interesting how every terran i read about "has a weaker TvP". And looking at the ammount of lesser protosses in Ro8 yes, I would say Squirtle won becouse TvP is imbalanced.

On May 13 2012 21:34 Thruth wrote:
Interesting how every terran i read about "has a weaker TvP". And looking at the ammount of lesser protosses in Ro8 yes, I would say Squirtle won becouse TvP is imbalanced.

On May 13 2012 16:21 FidoDido wrote:


Bro, you wouldn't understand the kind of physical pain he is experiencing while he is playing. I personally suffer from CTS at a minor extent which prevents me from playing over 1-2 hours of time but hell, when I feel even a little bit of pain, I rest for the entire day.
MVP is suffering from a much more serious degree of it and is still attempting to win the finals. But I don't blame the general mob mentality of no being understanding of a human being because until they experience the same pain or knows someone close that also has it, they most likely won't change their mind.
It's like trying to sympathize with a terminal cancer patient when you have never fought cancer yourself or know anyone else who has by saying "it's okay, you're going to be fine" It's like a slap in the face.

On May 13 2012 19:02 Tyrant0 wrote:


I love the ridiculous spin placed upon these finals. If MVP loses, it's not because squirtle is a very good protoss, or because MVP historically had a weaker TvP winning most of his championships on the back of his god-tier TvT/TvZ. It's none of that. It's because TvP is imbalanced. And of course, if MVP wins, well then he's just a god and theres simply no disputing it.

On May 14 2012 00:29 InoyouS2 wrote:


Actually if he loses it's because he has CTS in both wrists.

But no, a lot of people will not say that TvP is imbalanced if Squirtle wins or if Mvp wins will they say it's balanced, TvP is imbalanced at the moment because of how the match up plays out. Terran is very strong early-game, and can win with all-ins, like the way Mvp has been winning against NaNiwa and PartinG. Protoss is incredibly OP after a certain time in-game if the Terran hasn't done enough economic damage, and can literally faceroll the Terran army.

Blizzard thinks those two cancel each other out, which really they do, but they don't make for interesting matches, they literally make the match up so that there is one big battle that one side wins or loses and then it's gg, which is awful balance.

On May 14 2012 00:41 Tyrant0 wrote:


Yeah, it's not imbalanced. TvP is much more dynamic than simply declaring that a protoss is unbeatable after a certain "in-game" time, with no variables. You can, however, much more safely and accurately acknowledge a meta game swing in favor of Protoss in PvT.

Did you actually think you're explaining to someone who doesn't know? Lol.

And yes, he does have CTS, but CTS won't be mentioned nearly as much as imbalance.

On May 14 2012 02:04 RespectedPuddle wrote:
what date/ what time is the finals? Ive never watched GSL and can't find that info anywhere. thanks

On May 14 2012 01:27 InoyouS2 wrote:


Calling TvP a dynamic match up is a joke, it's probably the least dynamic match up in the game.

On May 14 2012 02:45 Tyrant0 wrote:


If you're going to be narrow minded and observe this specific metagame as the only end-all TvP metagame that has ever existed, then maybe, in this particular vacuum, it's not very dynamic. I guess SC2 came out a few months ago.

On May 14 2012 14:24 mrjpark wrote:
"With a 3 – 0 victory over Liquid`HerO, ST_Squirtle improved to 14 – 1 in Code S Season Two and stepped one series closer to achieving the best run in GSL history."

Uh, didn't NesTea win a season without dropping a single game?

On May 14 2012 15:14 HaXXspetten wrote:

Yes, but that was still not as impressive if you look at it. NesTea won GSL July with a total score of 14-0, by first getting a walkover against Rain and beating July. In the bracket play he then went 2-0 vs Ensnare, 3-0 vs CoCa, 3-0 vs HongUn and finally 4-0 vs LosirA. None of these players are even close to NesTea's skill level on paper, plus that the tournament itself was a lot smaller back then.

Compare this to Squirtle's run this season. After losing his very first game, he came back to beat MMA 2-1 and then Leenock 2-0 in the Ro32, then it was Oz and Maru, also 2-0's, and now in the playoffs he's 3-0'ed both Taeja and HerO, and is now facing off against Mvp. Not only are these victims a hell of a lot more impressive kills on paper, but his 14 winstreak that has now tied NesTea's previous record might still be extended, depending on how the first game(s) of the finals will go. If everything goes smoothly he could end up with a perfect 18 Code S winstreak.

On May 14 2012 21:45 crocodile wrote:
it's kind of funny because tvp plays out a lot like bio tvz. i think the 'protoss is so strong late game' argument is more the result of people playing bio as standard in tvp and not in other matchups. bio is a composition that is stronger and relies on doing damage early on while riding momentum to victory, and gets weaker in the late game. if mech were viable in tvp, bio wouldn't be standard and it wouldn't be imbalanced.